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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...
Interesting reading that. So Ashley was willing to put in £23m of his own money to sign Joelinton
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article...
Interesting reading that. So Ashley was willing to put in £23m of his own money to sign Joelinton
Literally just came here to post this.
Interesting read.
I will actually now say that although I still very far from like Mike Ashley, I do think there’s more to this whole MA/RB situation than met the eye.
I do believe he had this Chinese deal lined up for months and had no intention of staying. It seems highly unlikely to me that he can leave the club one day and then just get this contract the following day. It implies a large degree of planning.
It’s also interesting that many of the players have actually warmed to Steve Bruce and some even saying Rafa going was possibly for the best. Certainly my dad has never believed Rafa to be the messiah most people thought and am starting to wonder.
All that being said, I still don’t think there’s much cause to be happy with things at the moment, but time will tell.
Interesting read.
I will actually now say that although I still very far from like Mike Ashley, I do think there’s more to this whole MA/RB situation than met the eye.
I do believe he had this Chinese deal lined up for months and had no intention of staying. It seems highly unlikely to me that he can leave the club one day and then just get this contract the following day. It implies a large degree of planning.
It’s also interesting that many of the players have actually warmed to Steve Bruce and some even saying Rafa going was possibly for the best. Certainly my dad has never believed Rafa to be the messiah most people thought and am starting to wonder.
All that being said, I still don’t think there’s much cause to be happy with things at the moment, but time will tell.
Wow some short memories and revisionism here imho
I’m Liverpool so neutral but to believe that PR article in the Wail from a slippery scumbag like MA over what’s been staring you in the face for years is odd.
Of course Rafa was planning an alternative if MA continued his nonsense.
Then he goes out and buys a couple of players to make a point that “it wasn't me honest guv”
I’m Liverpool so neutral but to believe that PR article in the Wail from a slippery scumbag like MA over what’s been staring you in the face for years is odd.
Of course Rafa was planning an alternative if MA continued his nonsense.
Then he goes out and buys a couple of players to make a point that “it wasn't me honest guv”
Edited by Adam B on Monday 29th July 16:25
SwipeRight said:
SydneyBridge said:
Comparing Newcastle to spurs, Newcastle are a much bigger club in terms of support etc, so should be getting more in sponsorship
That's a joke right? In terms of support and etc - whatever "etc" is.A simple google will put you straight on both points.
JNW1 said:
SwipeRight said:
SydneyBridge said:
Comparing Newcastle to spurs, Newcastle are a much bigger club in terms of support etc, so should be getting more in sponsorship
That's a joke right? In terms of support and etc - whatever "etc" is.A simple google will put you straight on both points.
Spurs currently hold other records for attendance (European home attendance) and their worldwide shirt sales easily outstrip Newcastles. We also have a huge waiting list for season tickets and easily sell out every week at our new ground.
There is no metric I can think of that would make Newcastle bigger than Spurs at this time.
Any Financial, Attendance or Achievement metric you care to name.
Yes, Newcastle are a big club, no doubt, but you're only really big in Newcastle.
Any way, this is a nonsense argument designed to inflame I suspect - and so I've taken the bait - which was a mistake. I'll not reply again.
Cheers
I am not a Newcastle fan- was just commenting on the article that was linked to on Twitter
Apologies - on googling worldwide football teams- Spurs are the 13th best supported team
quoted from the article, about what MA has said
'He says clubs such as Spurs can attract significantly larger sponsorship deals than #NUFC, giving them a financial head-start, which is plainly true
What he's not saying is that the value of the shirt sponsorship's directly linked to the club’s performance and consequent global exposure
Spurs played in a Champions League final in front of 11.3 million people at the end of last season.
haven’t played in the Champions League since before Ashley bought the club.
What's more, the last time they did, their shirt deal was reportedly worth more than Spurs’
In other words, the divergence in the values of the two clubs' shirt sponsorship deals is as much a measure of how much better run Spurs are these days than #NUFC under Ashley'
Apologies - on googling worldwide football teams- Spurs are the 13th best supported team
quoted from the article, about what MA has said
'He says clubs such as Spurs can attract significantly larger sponsorship deals than #NUFC, giving them a financial head-start, which is plainly true
What he's not saying is that the value of the shirt sponsorship's directly linked to the club’s performance and consequent global exposure
Spurs played in a Champions League final in front of 11.3 million people at the end of last season.
haven’t played in the Champions League since before Ashley bought the club.
What's more, the last time they did, their shirt deal was reportedly worth more than Spurs’
In other words, the divergence in the values of the two clubs' shirt sponsorship deals is as much a measure of how much better run Spurs are these days than #NUFC under Ashley'
Edited by SydneyBridge on Monday 29th July 13:46
Adam B said:
Wow some short memories and revisionism here imho
I’m Liverpool so neutral but to believe that PR article in the Wail from a slippery scumbag like MA over what’s been staring you in the face for years is odd.
Of course Rafa was planning an alternative if MA continued his nonsense.
Then he goes out and buys a coupe of players to make a point that it want me honest guv
My exact thoughts, could not have put it better myself.I’m Liverpool so neutral but to believe that PR article in the Wail from a slippery scumbag like MA over what’s been staring you in the face for years is odd.
Of course Rafa was planning an alternative if MA continued his nonsense.
Then he goes out and buys a coupe of players to make a point that it want me honest guv
SwipeRight said:
When Spurs last went down for one year they set away attendance records all over the country for a 2nd division team. They also filled old White Hart Lane most weeks.
Not true! When Spurs were last in the old 2nd division (1977/78) the capacity at the old White Hart Lane was just over 50,000; however, only once did they get that for a home game during that season and a lot of the time attendances were more like high 20k's or low 30k's (so nowhere near filling the stadium as you suggest). In contrast, when Newcastle were in the Championship recently they were still getting 50k for almost every home game.I'm not sure about setting away attendance records all over the country but given the claim about home attendances is obvious nonsense I rather suspect the same applies to the claim about Tottenham's away following as well....
SwipeRight said:
Spurs currently hold other records for attendance (European home attendance)
Really? Celtic played Leeds at Hampden Park in the semi-final of the European Cup in 1970 and the attendance was just over 136k - might be wrong but I don't think Tottenham have hosted a European game where the attendance has been anything like that?SwipeRight said:
worldwide shirt sales easily outstrip Newcastles. We also have a huge waiting list for season tickets and easily sell out every week at our new ground.
There is no metric I can think of that would make Newcastle bigger than Spurs at this time.
Any Financial, Attendance or Achievement metric you care to name.
I think your reference to "at this time" probably speaks volumes as you come across as someone who's probably relatively young with little or no grasp of the history. Of course Tottenham are currently more successful than Newcastle (and indeed most other English clubs) and hats off to them for what they've achieved; however, just because they're doing well at the moment doesn't make them a bigger club than the likes of Newcastle - better run certainly but not bigger IMHO. There is no metric I can think of that would make Newcastle bigger than Spurs at this time.
Any Financial, Attendance or Achievement metric you care to name.
In similar vein I'd argue Manchester City and Chelsea are in some respects no bigger than Newcastle; they just happen to have owners with deep pockets who've been prepared to invest heavily to achieve success. However, historically neither of those clubs has commanded the sort of following through thick and thin that Newcastle has enjoyed - if grass roots support is a measure of how big a club is then in my view Newcastle are one of the biggest clubs in England. And to reiterate, I'm not saying this as a Newcastle fan!
Considering we've been owner by this idiot for the last 11 years or so, we are still rank at 19th in the world's Richest club. Spurs are now 10th but at the start of Ashley's reign I am confident that we were clearly better off than Spurs. They have been well managed at board and training ground level in that time where as we have been stripped and cheapened.
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