my son wants to buy a subaru

my son wants to buy a subaru

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paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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They are reliable, but some things can be expensive, and older cars are more likely to need rebuilds, clutches and the like. I just shelled out 1K for a clutch and flywheel (granted it was a racing clutch).

MPG can be okay on a run, however, hard driving returns low teens. They are fast and capable cars, BUT, with a lack of experience and too much juvenile confidence you are likely to wind up in a box. The insurance is high for a reason, and most wont touch young drivers...

-P

PaulMoor

3,209 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Do an insurence check for him and i think that will be prohibative. It's the sort of price he is thinking of for me, with the same ncb, 14 years driving, 7ish years older and a managment job in a very safe sector.

Also 24, 6 months in a job, not a home owner and only wanting £7k, over 5 years too, is probably going to sting in interest.

Nothing wrong with the car, just as long as he is sure he can afford it.

al bebak

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153 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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thanks for the replies guys,
most of what you have said ref the car is more or less what ive told him so i wasnt bull stting him.
and yes i do think he is over stretching himself, now is the first time he has had a proper job which has prospects in the future.
he has a company van all day and most nights and weekends.
i know im just being an old fart but i cant help that.
he should be trying to stabilise himself not pressure himself with debt.
he dont have any need to impress anyone, he's a popular lad with a long term girlfriend.
all that said i was also a complete tt up until about his age and never took a lot of notice of my dad.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

214 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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He'd be better off in a £2k 328, affordable performance. If you are over 21 BMW's are cheap to insure.

S8QUATTRO

848 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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They are dangerously quick, and can be lethal in the hands of an inexperienced driver. My younger brother had one (thinks he is a great driver) I advised him to sell it before he got to carried away in it.

Fantastic cars in the right hands and the power delivery is awesome.

What cars has your son had prior to this?

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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My brother's had 3 (didn't crash any, he just oscillated between "My current car is too slow" and "This Impreza is too expensive to run" (and in one case, when he had his P1, he sold it to a friend of his for £2k more than he bought it after a fortnight)), and they always proved fairly sturdy. We got 2 surfboards and a bodyboard in the (saloon) car as well as 3 occupants one time.

Make sure your son keeps it tidy and unmolested because he'll be selling it within 6 months. But make sure he enjoys it while he can, and then when he's on a better wage he'll have a good goal to work to again.

PumpkinSteve

4,105 posts

157 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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If he needs 5 years to pay £7k back I would say he can't afford to borrow that much.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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S8QUATTRO said:
They are dangerously quick, and can be lethal in the hands of an inexperienced driver. My younger brother had one (thinks he is a great driver) I advised him to sell it before he got to carried away in it.
yes

bomb

3,692 posts

285 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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He will buy the car. He will realise after about 6 months that its far too expensive to run.

His girlfriend will want a home to set up. He cannot afford a house deposit. She will dump him and he will sell the car.

Next 6 years will be spent getting rid of that loan, and he will cycle to work, from Mam and Dads house.

By the time he is 30, all the nice girls will be married.

He will then consider getting a boyfriend...........

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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bomb said:
He will buy the car. He will realise after about 6 months that its far too expensive to run.

His girlfriend will want a home to set up. He cannot afford a house deposit. She will dump him and he will sell the car.

Next 6 years will be spent getting rid of that loan, and he will cycle to work, from Mam and Dads house.

By the time he is 30, all the nice girls will be married.

He will then consider getting a boyfriend...........
rofl

Getting an STi can turn you gay...

bomb

3,692 posts

285 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Oh yes.

Its a very common trait amongst the Subaru driver community.

Just you wait and see........

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

214 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Insurance for me on a 2005 STI, aged 25, 7 years no claims no driving offences
£1750 fully comp 8k per year allowance and £500 excess
On my 528- £600
On an Aston DB9 for sts and giggles-£950

I live in a good postcode area for insurance.



PumpkinSteve

4,105 posts

157 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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bomb said:
Oh yes.

Its a very common trait amongst the Subaru driver community.

Just you wait and see........
Check out the size of my backbox now.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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S8QUATTRO said:
They are dangerously quick, and can be lethal in the hands of an inexperienced driver. My younger brother had one (thinks he is a great driver) I advised him to sell it before he got to carried away in it.
Absolute bks. There is nothing dangerous about Imprezas.

acf8181

797 posts

235 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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So he's got 2k already but wants to add a 5k loan (if i read correctly)?

You can get a great impreza for 2k so why bother with the loan?!

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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EDLT said:
S8QUATTRO said:
They are dangerously quick, and can be lethal in the hands of an inexperienced driver. My younger brother had one (thinks he is a great driver) I advised him to sell it before he got to carried away in it.
Absolute bks. There is nothing dangerous about Imprezas.
Their power and their ability to achieve ridiculous speeds in a short distance make them dangerous in the hands of inexpieenced drivers. You can get yourself into trouble too quickly. I assume you have owned one to make your comment?

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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doogz said:
They have monster amounts of grip.

IMO, it'd be easier to get yourself "into trouble" in an old RWD BMW, such as he already owns, than in an Impreza.
And that's part of the problem, when they finally let go invariably you are going very, very fast, and if you don't react quick enough or know what to do then you'll wipe out... Doing track days in mine has really shown me both sides of the story...

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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paulmoonraker said:
EDLT said:
S8QUATTRO said:
They are dangerously quick, and can be lethal in the hands of an inexperienced driver. My younger brother had one (thinks he is a great driver) I advised him to sell it before he got to carried away in it.
Absolute bks. There is nothing dangerous about Imprezas.
Their power and their ability to achieve ridiculous speeds in a short distance make them dangerous in the hands of inexpieenced drivers. You can get yourself into trouble too quickly. I assume you have owned one to make your comment?
I haven't owned one, because I'd be dead. However I have driven one so I'm only paralysed from the neck down. rolleyes

badlands1

845 posts

154 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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I hope your son is not a knobhead behind the wheel, because a knobhead behind the wheel of a Subaru is deathly, if not good luck to him and I hope he enjoys it.
The money part of it, well if he struggles and fks it up, he will learn, and if he pays it off on time and in full, he will learn.

retrorider

1,339 posts

202 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Advise him to go more left field for his age (944 turbo etc).Just as quick in the real world,classic status,its a Porsche and very little if any depreciation and with the company van he has,not the daily use miles to worry about.I had a P1 for 3 years.Very capable,but akin to going very quick in a tin can and the interiors are a joke...