PPP vs Scooby World stage 1
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One is a remap for every car, one is a remap for your own. Exhausts, filters, fuel pumps will all produce the same sort of thing. The key is to get the right mapper on it so personally I would get the work done and get Jolly Green Monster to sort out the ECU, although Zen used him in the past so you might want to check with them too.
PSBuckshot said:
Do you know what sort of figures you get from the JGM remap?
And would anti lag be as fatal as I imagine or is it on a switch like the launch control?
You'll get what you want but it'll be over 300 bhp and safely mapped. It also depends on what engine your car has as the 2.0 will get over 300 but the torque figures from a 2.5 will be much higher.And would anti lag be as fatal as I imagine or is it on a switch like the launch control?
Antilag is for racing, it will hasten the expiry of your engine so I don't see the point. When do you really do 4,500 full launches?
The rule I had with any power modifications, outside of the obvious brake upgrades, is to forget about numbers and concentrate on the drivability of the car. You'll get a nice smooth torque curve with a custom remap and the car will benefit just by this.
Ved said:
You'll get what you want but it'll be over 300 bhp and safely mapped. It also depends on what engine your car has as the 2.0 will get over 300 but the torque figures from a 2.5 will be much higher.
Antilag is for racing, it will hasten the expiry of your engine so I don't see the point. When do you really do 4,500 full launches?
The rule I had with any power modifications, outside of the obvious brake upgrades, is to forget about numbers and concentrate on the drivability of the car. You'll get a nice smooth torque curve with a custom remap and the car will benefit just by this.
I just love the sound of anti-lag Antilag is for racing, it will hasten the expiry of your engine so I don't see the point. When do you really do 4,500 full launches?
The rule I had with any power modifications, outside of the obvious brake upgrades, is to forget about numbers and concentrate on the drivability of the car. You'll get a nice smooth torque curve with a custom remap and the car will benefit just by this.
Would an exhaust (shall be fitting a Blitz Nur), new air filter, fuel pump and remap really take my WRX to over 300bhp?
Its an 02 Bugeye, over 300bhp seems quite a lot.
You'll see up to and around 275-280 bhp normally with supporting mods which is about the safe limit of the turbo and injectors before the turbo starts turning into a flame thrower and your injectors start to run out of fuel.
You can squeeze more out but intake air temps from the turbo start to rise rapidly with the standard WRX TMIC and the injectors can't squirt enough fuel to to try and keep cylinders cool and air fuel ratios where you want them without some assistance from an adjustable fuel pressure regulator running 3.5bar - 4.0bar, and even then you'll probably want to change the fuel pump for safety/reliability/fuel supply sake.
Then you could see 290-300bhp at a push. Add some Methanol and you'll get there no problem but keeping Methanol ratio in your fuel tank at the same level all the time is a ball ache and you need to carry Methanol everywhere you go for when you fill up.
WRX's should be mapped for bottom to mid range torque, that's where the car comes alive, becomes more economical, provides effortless overtaking, quick out of corners etc... The TD04 turbo lends itself very well to that type of tuning. Forget BHP power numbers, doesn't make your car quick or nice to drive.
Torque rules!!
You can squeeze more out but intake air temps from the turbo start to rise rapidly with the standard WRX TMIC and the injectors can't squirt enough fuel to to try and keep cylinders cool and air fuel ratios where you want them without some assistance from an adjustable fuel pressure regulator running 3.5bar - 4.0bar, and even then you'll probably want to change the fuel pump for safety/reliability/fuel supply sake.
Then you could see 290-300bhp at a push. Add some Methanol and you'll get there no problem but keeping Methanol ratio in your fuel tank at the same level all the time is a ball ache and you need to carry Methanol everywhere you go for when you fill up.
WRX's should be mapped for bottom to mid range torque, that's where the car comes alive, becomes more economical, provides effortless overtaking, quick out of corners etc... The TD04 turbo lends itself very well to that type of tuning. Forget BHP power numbers, doesn't make your car quick or nice to drive.
Torque rules!!
Hi all,
Just out of intrest and for my own education, I had my Evo 8 put to Stage 1 about a year ago and for that changed the fuel pump, Cat delete pipe, air box mod or filter followed by a remap.
Putting friendly rivalry aside and the fact they are different engines, would the priniciple changes not be similar for both?
In reference to the comments about chasing numbers, I couldn't agree more. Driveability is everything, a good Stage 1 changed my Evo completely.
Just out of intrest and for my own education, I had my Evo 8 put to Stage 1 about a year ago and for that changed the fuel pump, Cat delete pipe, air box mod or filter followed by a remap.
Putting friendly rivalry aside and the fact they are different engines, would the priniciple changes not be similar for both?
In reference to the comments about chasing numbers, I couldn't agree more. Driveability is everything, a good Stage 1 changed my Evo completely.
just on a side note. Unless you already have it try a different exhaust. I had a Blitz Nur on my old classic and my god was it loud, did not pass noise tests at a few tracks. Was about 99db and without the cat that went up to 115! Put a Milltek on it after that which brought it down enough to about 95.
Now running my P1 I have a full RCM system which is only about 90db even without the cat.
Now running my P1 I have a full RCM system which is only about 90db even without the cat.
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