What's a GTR like long term?
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Hi. Been a 911 driver for past 20 years , started with a 3.2 aircooled , then 10 years with a 996 and now into my fourth year with a 997 gen 2 . All been my daily drivers .Love the way they drive with reasonable performance per pound , the weight transfer influence on the handling gives an tactile , involving drive. I'm ok with the high(ish) service/fuel/ tyres cost ( comes with the package ) but tyring of the extra yearly £2,3,4K bills that appear with regular monotony. Suspension, brakes, rads/ condensor/ hyd. pipes /water pipe etc etc, etc........so ...last year I drove the NC 500 in a hire GTR and loved it.....the extra performance was brilliant so now thinking of changing to a 12/13 GTR ( approx £50k/20k miles ) and thought being Japanese it would be a lot more reliable , potentially better built ( therefore cheaper to maintain ) using materials that last more than a year beyond the official warranty before disintegrating and corroding . So would like to hear current owners long term views on daily running costs of GTR 's . Although based in central Scotland I would be using Middlehurst as my service centre as they have the experience/ expertise I would expect to maintain these cars correctly. . Thank you in advance for any replies. Regards. Ian
Hi, I'm only answering as no-one else has posted anything more up to date.
We had a very early import in 2008. I can't compare that car with a current spec model as I've never been in the later car. I did about 4k miles in it from new, including driving it from the UK to Crete via various European countries. I admired Nissan for it as a technical achievement, it was spectacularly quick up to about 130 mph, and the gearchanges were better than anything else I'd tried.
I never really liked it though, it felt massive on the roads I like to drive on, it was back-endy in the wet, and the ride was a disgrace, although I'm led to believe the early imports were particularly bad for this. It didn't incur any costs other than fuel in our time with it. I don't miss it one bit, however, it's a very subjective issue..........best bet would be to try and secure an extended test drive on the type of roads you prefer and would use it on as an owner.
Hopefully someone who is a current owner will be along to give a more up to date perspective.
We had a very early import in 2008. I can't compare that car with a current spec model as I've never been in the later car. I did about 4k miles in it from new, including driving it from the UK to Crete via various European countries. I admired Nissan for it as a technical achievement, it was spectacularly quick up to about 130 mph, and the gearchanges were better than anything else I'd tried.
I never really liked it though, it felt massive on the roads I like to drive on, it was back-endy in the wet, and the ride was a disgrace, although I'm led to believe the early imports were particularly bad for this. It didn't incur any costs other than fuel in our time with it. I don't miss it one bit, however, it's a very subjective issue..........best bet would be to try and secure an extended test drive on the type of roads you prefer and would use it on as an owner.
Hopefully someone who is a current owner will be along to give a more up to date perspective.
Heaveho said:
Hi, I'm only answering as no-one else has posted anything more up to date.
We had a very early import in 2008. I can't compare that car with a current spec model as I've never been in the later car. I did about 4k miles in it from new, including driving it from the UK to Crete via various European countries. I admired Nissan for it as a technical achievement, it was spectacularly quick up to about 130 mph, and the gearchanges were better than anything else I'd tried.
I never really liked it though, it felt massive on the roads I like to drive on, it was back-endy in the wet, and the ride was a disgrace, although I'm led to believe the early imports were particularly bad for this. It didn't incur any costs other than fuel in our time with it. I don't miss it one bit, however, it's a very subjective issue..........best bet would be to try and secure an extended test drive on the type of roads you prefer and would use it on as an owner.
Hopefully someone who is a current owner will be along to give a more up to date perspective.
I`ve had a VERY VERY similar experience and now selling, Probably not an issue for you but driving in town feels a bit awkward and it doesn`t look like it might be a problem but visibility out is surprisingly compromised, hasn`t really cost me much to run but I`ve done relatively low miles in mine since I`ve had it!We had a very early import in 2008. I can't compare that car with a current spec model as I've never been in the later car. I did about 4k miles in it from new, including driving it from the UK to Crete via various European countries. I admired Nissan for it as a technical achievement, it was spectacularly quick up to about 130 mph, and the gearchanges were better than anything else I'd tried.
I never really liked it though, it felt massive on the roads I like to drive on, it was back-endy in the wet, and the ride was a disgrace, although I'm led to believe the early imports were particularly bad for this. It didn't incur any costs other than fuel in our time with it. I don't miss it one bit, however, it's a very subjective issue..........best bet would be to try and secure an extended test drive on the type of roads you prefer and would use it on as an owner.
Hopefully someone who is a current owner will be along to give a more up to date perspective.
A bit of a strange car, MENTAL for the money, hard to compare to many other cars, I think the only thing it really gets lumped together with is 996/7/1 Turbos because it`s nothing like a Gallardo, R8, 430/458, not like a Panamera T, not like an RS6, F Type V8, it just is what it is and sometimes you just have to try one for a while, looks like prices are fairly static so you might be able to try one without being a financial disaster, maybe avoid monster power remapped cars
don logan said:
I`ve had a VERY VERY similar experience and now selling, Probably not an issue for you but driving in town feels a bit awkward and it doesn`t look like it might be a problem but visibility out is surprisingly compromised, hasn`t really cost me much to run but I`ve done relatively low miles in mine since I`ve had it!
A bit of a strange car, MENTAL for the money, hard to compare to many other cars, I think the only thing it really gets lumped together with is 996/7/1 Turbos because it`s nothing like a Gallardo, R8, 430/458, not like a Panamera T, not like an RS6, F Type V8, it just is what it is and sometimes you just have to try one for a while, looks like prices are fairly static so you might be able to try one without being a financial disaster, maybe avoid monster power remapped cars
Interesting you say that as a former owner. A re-map to 650bhp and it would probably run rings around most of the cars you mentioned above. Also a glance at the Blancpain results show that they generally hold their own those above which do compete. Out of 51 finishers at this year's race at Paul Ricard, they finished in 5th and 11th places ahead of McLarens, Mercedes AMG GT3 and Porsche GT3Rs.A bit of a strange car, MENTAL for the money, hard to compare to many other cars, I think the only thing it really gets lumped together with is 996/7/1 Turbos because it`s nothing like a Gallardo, R8, 430/458, not like a Panamera T, not like an RS6, F Type V8, it just is what it is and sometimes you just have to try one for a while, looks like prices are fairly static so you might be able to try one without being a financial disaster, maybe avoid monster power remapped cars
Mine has not given me any trouble in the 3.5 years I've owned it but parts are dear.
Zed 44 said:
Interesting you say that as a former owner. A re-map to 650bhp and it would probably run rings around most of the cars you mentioned above. Also a glance at the Blancpain results show that they generally hold their own those above which do compete. Out of 51 finishers at this year's race at Paul Ricard, they finished in 5th and 11th places ahead of McLarens, Mercedes AMG GT3 and Porsche GT3Rs.
Mine has not given me any trouble in the 3.5 years I've owned it but parts are dear.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I don't think there's any doubt it would run rings around most of the others but they are nothing "like" them, the others all have other cars that are similar to them, the GTR isn''t really like a anything elseMine has not given me any trouble in the 3.5 years I've owned it but parts are dear.
I havn't had any problems in a similar length of time to you either but my idea of monster power is 750+
Edited by don logan on Monday 26th June 18:47
I've had a GTR for 5 years and unlikely to sell it in the near future. I bought it with 6000 miles on the clock and it has now done nearly 63,000. I've travelled over to Europe in it several times, it's very comfortable for long journeys and the boot is enormous so a case and the wife's shoes fit in fine!
Running costs are reasonable if you use the independent specialists, not Nissan main dealers, my last service was £240 at AC Speedtech in Warrington. Brake discs are expensive, so if you intend on tracking the car consider this extra cost. Reliability is generally good, I've had one gearbox hiccup which needed new shift fork shafts and shift fork bearings but other than that nothing major has failed.
When tuned to stage 4 the performance and sound is amazing, this will give you in the region of 660bhp and about 630ftlb of torque, I also own a 458 and without doubt my stage 4 GTR is much quicker due to the massive amount of torque they produce at low revs.
Running costs are reasonable if you use the independent specialists, not Nissan main dealers, my last service was £240 at AC Speedtech in Warrington. Brake discs are expensive, so if you intend on tracking the car consider this extra cost. Reliability is generally good, I've had one gearbox hiccup which needed new shift fork shafts and shift fork bearings but other than that nothing major has failed.
When tuned to stage 4 the performance and sound is amazing, this will give you in the region of 660bhp and about 630ftlb of torque, I also own a 458 and without doubt my stage 4 GTR is much quicker due to the massive amount of torque they produce at low revs.
I'm on my second so this is my 6th year with one as my main car. They are amazing, totally capable in more or less every situation.
Mine is due for replacement in March and much as though I love it my children are now a bit big for the back seats (which are pretty good) so I'm looking for something to replace it with. Running costs have been fine, my first car was an 09 plate and I used a specialist for most of the work. The current car was new and has a service pack on it. Tyres/brakes etc are not cheap but I don't consider it is an expensive car to own.
The other good thing is that values seem to be pretty strong.
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Mine is due for replacement in March and much as though I love it my children are now a bit big for the back seats (which are pretty good) so I'm looking for something to replace it with. Running costs have been fine, my first car was an 09 plate and I used a specialist for most of the work. The current car was new and has a service pack on it. Tyres/brakes etc are not cheap but I don't consider it is an expensive car to own.
The other good thing is that values seem to be pretty strong.
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I have coveted a GTR for years now and I think I need to do it soon. Probably looking at an MY 12/13 with light Litchfield mods. My only concern is that the car will be subjected to a lot of short trips as we live only 2 miles from work, is this likely to cause me any issues? It will of course get plenty of runs on the weekends but inevitably the car will be subjected to short trips for 3 or 4 days a week. Would anyone be concerned by this other than the obvious taking it easy because it will never really egt up to operating temp?
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I'm in the same position, looking for the same thing.
For the type of car this is, for objective running costs (i.e. not insurance/fuel which is different for everyone), the car is not too bad. Tires are about 1k and I think last for 16k miles (depends on use too, but I am looking at fast road use). Brakes are 2-3k but last about to years, which is not too bad.
I don't think the GT-R has any issue with vshort trips.
For the type of car this is, for objective running costs (i.e. not insurance/fuel which is different for everyone), the car is not too bad. Tires are about 1k and I think last for 16k miles (depends on use too, but I am looking at fast road use). Brakes are 2-3k but last about to years, which is not too bad.
I don't think the GT-R has any issue with vshort trips.
Z064life said:
Tires are about 1k and I think last for 16k miles (depends on use too, but I am looking at fast road use).
Fast road use? 8K miles on the OEM runflats before the rears are gone and the fronts are through to the cords on the insides (yes my geometry is correct), probably a bit more on MPSS Michelins.TSS said:
Fast road use? 8K miles on the OEM runflats before the rears are gone and the fronts are through to the cords on the insides (yes my geometry is correct), probably a bit more on MPSS Michelins.
If my tyre wear was that bad, the car would have been out the door long ago. I put the first set on on the 18th Sept. 2013 and 31.095 miles later changed them on the 21st July, 2016. No track days just multiple trips to Europe for some fun driving. Since changing to the second set, I've done 3 European trips racking up another 8k miles and it's just passed its' MOT with tyres still in near perfect condition.Conversely I test drove a GTR yesterday for the first time as I have always loved the look, sound and idea of one.
Having driven one I really wasn't blown away with it. It sounded awesome (with a Y pipe) and the gear changes in manual were fantastic. Other than that, for the cost of them, you get a very plastic interior, limited seat adjustment, pointless rear seats, really poor view like someone mentioned above, and it wasn't as quick as I expected it to be.
I currently drive a CLS63 and I think it is so much more car for less money. Long distance driving, ultimate power and being a great place to sit the Merc takes it every time. Admittedly the handling will be better on the GTR as that is what it is designed for but this all depends on what you want the car for. All I'm saying it £35,000 for a good CLS63...
Having driven one I really wasn't blown away with it. It sounded awesome (with a Y pipe) and the gear changes in manual were fantastic. Other than that, for the cost of them, you get a very plastic interior, limited seat adjustment, pointless rear seats, really poor view like someone mentioned above, and it wasn't as quick as I expected it to be.
I currently drive a CLS63 and I think it is so much more car for less money. Long distance driving, ultimate power and being a great place to sit the Merc takes it every time. Admittedly the handling will be better on the GTR as that is what it is designed for but this all depends on what you want the car for. All I'm saying it £35,000 for a good CLS63...
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