Slow death for Subaru dealers??

Slow death for Subaru dealers??

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telecat

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8,528 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Given the rather odd stance taken by Sabaru with which cars they import and their transmissions are they going to be saleable? I just do not see a market for a CVT petrol 4WD car in the UK.

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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telecat said:
Given the rather odd stance taken by Sabaru with which cars they import and their transmissions are they going to be saleable? I just do not see a market for a CVT petrol 4WD car in the UK.
It's been a slow death in the UK ever since they decided to try and move upmarket and compete with the likes of Audi/BMW and in doing so, neglect their core market of cheap, reliable countryside/farm/utilitarian vehicles.

vxr2010

2,565 posts

159 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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there are a lot of suppliers out there so i think the cars will still be seen on uk roads for some time

leefee

633 posts

129 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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I am a loyal Subaruist, and have sold and continue to sell as many as I can get my hands on, petrols where possible... I have no idea who they think their buyers were, but they have lost many of them. They are supposed to be a bit quirky, driven by people who used to drive Saabs and Volvos.... I reckon if Subaru were the maker of the Dacia Duster, they would have done really well. They seem to keep missing the reason they were so popular. I have to say I'm no massive fan of anything after 2008 ish, Subaru wise. Anylike I have for them is linked to the brand rather than what they make, which is odd, as I am soo not a brand person.....

oop north

1,596 posts

128 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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I have a bit of a hankering to get another Subaru - but the Forester XT is the only model with a reasonably interesting power output. if they did the outback with 3.6 or 2.0 turbo (or a 3.0 diesel) I would be v tempted. but, as it is, not interested

PomBstard

6,776 posts

242 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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I think it might be a UK thing. Subaru has just had a great 2017 here in Oz, on the back of the new Impreza and XV. Lots of CVT petrols over here, much to my dismay.

Otherwise, its all looking a bit droopy here too. Yes, we get the Levorg GT but that's also only CVT, same as the Forester XT. There's no more sporty Liberty/Legacy, and whilst I would still like a WRX, I need a wagon/something bigger for the family. A 3.6 Outback just ain't fun.

I would love Subaru to start with the Outback body, lower it and retune the suspension to previous Liberty/Legacy spec, and then install the new 2.0T from the Levorg (FA20), with a bit extra - 300bhp would be fine. And make it available with a 6-sp manual. I would happily go down to my local dealer tomorrow and buy one.

Allan L

783 posts

105 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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I started a (related) thread here two years ago and although there were some typical PH put-downs, those who responded sensibly and I seem to have been right.
Gives me no pleasure to be right in this matter though.

kurt535

3,559 posts

117 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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i happened to wander into a Subaru dealership not two days ago to ask what their plans were for a building they recently vacated..

All I can say is WTF have they done with their designs? They could so easily be a CRV/SKoda thing/ Nissan.

Main chappie in his early 60's was quite honest with me how he found it disappointing the way the brand had gone.

Sad though, I did love their cars from the 90's and 2000's.


Sa Calobra

37,129 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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I agree post-08 they are gopping. Except the BRZ

Bansheemax

26 posts

75 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Having had a chat at the local dealers, Subaru UK is targeting it's roots now, as the motor sport boom years are long gone.
This is the rural set.

All there advertising is geared to the Forester and XV at the moment, plus attending the big country shows.

I was enquiring to whether they had any plans to bring the Levorg 2.0GT, but apparently Subaru JPN sad no.
Import is the only route, when the time comes.

Subaru are really suffering from the whole emissions saga.
So don't expect any big power engines in the near future, the Forester will be quickest of the bunch.


rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Bansheemax said:
Having had a chat at the local dealers, Subaru UK is targeting it's roots now, as the motor sport boom years are long gone.
This is the rural set.

All there advertising is geared to the Forester and XV at the moment, plus attending the big country shows.

I was enquiring to whether they had any plans to bring the Levorg 2.0GT, but apparently Subaru JPN sad no.
Import is the only route, when the time comes.

Subaru are really suffering from the whole emissions saga.
So don't expect any big power engines in the near future, the Forester will be quickest of the bunch.
And the XT ends this year. Nothing of any note left, performance-wise.

ExVantagemech..

5,728 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Surely without Prodrives input they would have all but died out? Like Daihatsu and their exit from being main stream dealers - made some decent cars once upon a time but a lack of forward thinking will be their demise. One of those cases where their motorsport heritage was the crowd puller, everyone wanted to be a works Subaru driver!

Sa Calobra

37,129 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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A slow death. I've been quoted £980 for cambelt and pump by a main dealer chain or 360+vat by a good solid indie specialist.

Main dealer once quoted me 1k for a new exhaust for a known rotted Legacy problem. 350 at a made to measure place.

Yes there IS cost and supply considerations but when 99.99% trade out of average low-rent mixed marque showrooms yet charge Audi prices customers will leave.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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3.6 H6 engine coming to an end world-wide now. The replacement is a 2.4 four pot with a twin-scroll turbo giving similar output.
https://www.torquenews.com/1084/look-subaru-axe-ou...

Hub

6,434 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th February 2018
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A 2.0t Levorg would get my interest. The 1.6 isn't enough, especially with the CVT. Pointless importing just one engine/gearbox combo really for UK tastes. Subaru are a bit behind in terms of efficiency and tech, and just aren't providing what UK consumers want.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Yep, Subaru UK are strangling the brand, no 2.0t WRX, no 2.0t Levorg, no hybrid options... No H6 or turbo BRZ...

RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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the market changing from people buying outright to PCP or leasing probably hurt them a lot too.

just having a quick look and for leasing/ PCP a 1.6 Levorg you would be looking at about £450 a month where you can get the equivalent and probably much nicer Audi A4 / BMW 3 series estates for about £220 a month.

Much as I'm a Subaru fan, had 5 over the years, still have one. I couldn't make myself pay £200 a month more for an inferior product. Which is why my daily is an Octavia VRS at the moment and not Levorg / Forester.


rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Another problem is that many traditional Subaru owners are like me, they keep their cars for ages. I bought my last Forester about 9 years ago and have just passed it on to a friend. I've bought a new Forester XT as they're the last of the line and expect to keep it for 10 years or so.

RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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I’m nearly up to 12 years with my Impreza. Would be at 10 years with the Forester but some plum crashed into it and wrote it off frown

Samjeev

725 posts

121 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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PomBstard said:
I think it might be a UK thing. Subaru has just had a great 2017 here in Oz, on the back of the new Impreza and XV. Lots of CVT petrols over here, much to my dismay.
Just got back from a trip to Oz and I have to say you guys have Subarus everywhere compared to the UK. BRZ's and GT86's are all over the place, a few WRX's and STI's to be seen too and alot of standard Impreza, Legacy, Forester, etc models.

Compare that to here where if people want an SUV they go for Nissan, Porsche, Ranger Rover, etc or if people want an Estate they go for BMW, Audi, Merc, etc and if people want a fun car... well... the vast majority of people don't want a fun car here, the streets are swamped in a sea of grey german cars (another nice thing about Oz, all your cars are so colourful!)

So it's very much a UK thing, Subaru is massive in the US and Oz still

JB! said:
or turbo BRZ...
That's not a Subaru UK issue, there's no such thing as a Turbo BRZ worldwide.