TVR Registration

TVR Registration

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NCE 61

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2,301 posts

237 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Has any one imported a modern TVR into Belgium in the last year or so and managed to get it registered without to many problems?

So far we have been to the douane and have the registration application form.

Found an insurance company that will cover the Tuscan.

Obtained a European CoC from TVR.

Appointment booked for the control next week.

I suppose after that if all goes OK , papers to the insurance company and they sort our registration & number plate. Or is it not that straight forward with such cars? I have seen a few topics on other forums where people say they have been waiting for months for the number plate or paperwork being incorrect causing delays.

I was also looking into the amount of BIV that is to be paid on this web site BIV and got a bit of a shock as I know this had changed in the last year or so and is now emissions based but the sliding scale due to vehicle age does not seem to make very much difference any more:-


NilsP

389 posts

73 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Hi,

I'm currently doing this with my Cerbera.
But due to some misunderstandings from my end, it has taken over a year now.
i could register it right now but i don't see the point to pay tax when winter is coming.
But I don't have a european COC
The european COC costs you 9000€ in registration fees.
Without one they don't know your CO2 because TVR never officially released those numbers.
So they take the average Co2 and that will cost you about €700.

First I had to do a 'invoerkeuring', they will measure everything and you have to provide the papers from the previous registration.
Then i takes about 2-3 months to get your plate.
And then you have to get a normal MOT and you're goot to go smile


NCE 61

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

237 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Hi Nils one of the problems with later TVR's was that the emissions are on the V5 Registration document as welll,so can't see that I could get away with that, also the inspection needed to see a CoC.Have also not heard of having a second inspection after registration.

NilsP

389 posts

73 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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NCE 61 said:
Hi Nils one of the problems with later TVR's was that the emissions are on the V5 Registration document as welll,so can't see that I could get away with that, also the inspection needed to see a CoC.Have also not heard of having a second inspection after registration.
Oh that's a shame.
My 2002 Cerbera came without CO2 figures.
You can register it without COC but then you have to go the long way round like me. it's called 'Keuring alleenstaand geval'.
A lot of trouble but I've got no choice. but it saves me a lot of money

bxlbaz

381 posts

107 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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Hi
I imported mine a about 3 years ago. It took just a couple of weeks, make sure the paperwork tallies up before you leave the office with your documentation. They made a mistake with mine, but we spotted it before we left. A mate of mine had the same but didn't spot it and it took some sorting out even though it was their fault.
The taxes are painful, but Belgium is not the most car friendly government. Hence the road conditions and traffic problems, however Belgium has lots of other positives to make us for it.
Give me a shout when you are over and we will catch up with a few other TVR owners
Barrie

NCE 61

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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Hi Barrie sounds as though yours went very smoothly. I was informed today that the inspection date has been delayed by three weeks and the expensive CoC from TVR is not acceptable, hopefully the new bit of paper that is being produced will have a lower Co2 figure! The old BIV system on FPK/engine size that also reduced with the cars age would have been <20% of the new system emissions based cost.

bxlbaz

381 posts

107 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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There used to be a difference between the Flemish and Walloon regions as well, of course
The tax is horrendous though, the UK must be open jawed at what we pay
I hope your paperwork goes well and we get to catch up and give the cars a run
Cheers
Barrie

tunepipe911

516 posts

105 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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Hey

In the same sitation,been calling and emailing for a few months now still not finished,will keep you posted as what happnens,
first it was th MTM's not mentioned on the paperwork,now they need the engine number to be checked,Belgium car minded?? no way
BIV 600 euro,tax 1400 Euro(T350T 2003 speed six)


Rudy

bxlbaz

381 posts

107 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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they love our taxes, just hate our cars

Bet they are really happy they invested in the environmentally friendly Audi A1 being produced in Belgium

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

115 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Hi guys,

My Griff, this spring registered without much ado, however Griffs, or Barrie' Chim are not relevant.....(as built before 1998)

Procedure;

(cars prior 1998 ?)

-get a 'gelijkvormigheidsattest' from the importer (currently still with MF Cars) and a 'type' plate, with PVG n° (proces verbaal van goedkeuring)

- get Insurance

- go to customs with registry documents of the car ex country of origin (differs between countries, despite EU.....)

- go for MOT/'keuring' (with original licence plates)

- request for/get belgian license plates

Now the CoC delivered by TVR has no significance towards the DIV (dienst inschrijving voertuigen) as the PVG n°s had been allocated long before that, hence the 'TVR CoC' will not be withheld..........and is a loss of money to get one !

I have spoken to Rudy about this, and do not understand why they are making this so difficult, in fact there are several Tuscans and some T350' and Cerbs on the belgian roads, so it must be possible.....

If you can get hold of Marc Minne (eventually thru Exztra's in Tienen, he lives in France nowadays....) let him do you a gelijkvormigheidsattest and a type-plate, and you should be OK ?

Frank

tunepipe911

516 posts

105 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Frank

Recieved the certificate from Marc Minne as well,at the MOT- center they say it makes things even more complicated??
The y say I have to wait until it is all OK,
Thank God it is a polyester body or it was rusted until I got my Belgian platesmadmadmadmadmad
approval from GOCA(mobiliteit en verkeer)6 may 2015 !!
only need a blessing from a chief in a MOT center ????????

Rudy


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Edited by tunepipe911 on Thursday 8th October 14:55

ERIKM400

99 posts

88 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Hi,

No experience with TVR but I imported and registered a 2005 Noble M400 in Belgium two years ago.
Imported the car from Kuwait, now that was fun getting the paperwork sorted.
Original documents were in Arabic!

How difficult it will be to get the car on the road depends mainly on two things:
1) where the car is coming from: does it have a European registration. I guess your car is coming from the UK.
2) whether or not you've got a CoC that is accepted.

If you've got both the documents there should be no big problems in getting the car registered in Belgium, once you get it cleared by customs. Same procedure as for every other second hand car in Belgium.
DIV has to accept registration of a car that has been previously registered somewhere in Europe.

If one or both are missing, you're in for trouble (ask me how I know ;-)

If the MOT center will not accept the CoC you will have to use the procedure mentioned above: "keuring alleenstaand geval". This means two visits to the MOT center: the first time for an inspection to decide if the car complies with Belgian rules and regulations. If it does you will get a validation certificate which replaces the CoC.
With this certificate you can then return to the MOT center for the actual technical inspection.

I had to use the second way with the Noble which in the end turned out to have an unexpected benefit: BIV 1040€ :-D

If there's anything I can help with, PM me.

Regards,


NCE 61

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

237 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Thanks for sharing the experencies it's useful for me so I can a least try and understand the process. I have seen quiet a lot of the later Speed Six engined TVR's on Belgian plates including Tuscans. Tamoras & Sagaris so I know it's possible, just wish I had started this topic before starting the process to bring the Tuscan in from the UK, could have saved me time & money on the CoC.

The car is with Pascal at Passion Engineering in Moeskroen who has been changing the light's to dip right, changing over the reverse & fog lights and re-fitting the catalytic converters, he is also sorting out the inspection & has been in touch with Marc and he is supplying the gelijkvormigheidsattest, which will hopefully get it through the inspection and hopefully reduce the BIV.

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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NCE 61 said:
Thanks for sharing the experencies it's useful for me so I can a least try and understand the process. I have seen quiet a lot of the later Speed Six engined TVR's on Belgian plates including Tuscans. Tamoras & Sagaris so I know it's possible, just wish I had started this topic before starting the process to bring the Tuscan in from the UK, could have saved me time & money on the CoC.

The car is with Pascal at Passion Engineering in Moeskroen who has been changing the light's to dip right, changing over the reverse & fog lights and re-fitting the catalytic converters, he is also sorting out the inspection & has been in touch with Marc and he is supplying the gelijkvormigheidsattest, which will hopefully get it through the inspection and hopefully reduce the BIV.
Nick,

Sounds as if you are getting somewhere !

The euronorm for yours is 3, I think but the BIV will largely depend on the amount of CO² which has been noted in the PVG n° specs. There is all sorts of strange things going on there, e.i. my 430 is less in BIV then a 400 ??

btw; how are you finding the service at Passion ?

Frank

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

115 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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tunepipe911 said:
Frank

Recieved the certificate from Marc Minne as well,at the MOT- center they say it makes things even more complicated??
The y say I have to wait until it is all OK,
Thank God it is a polyester body or it was rusted until I got my Belgian platesmadmadmadmadmad
approval from GOCA(mobiliteit en verkeer)6 may 2015 !!
only need a blessing from a chief in a MOT center ????????

Rudy


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Edited by tunepipe911 on Thursday 8th October 14:55
Sorry, mate, I do not understand all that ..........

Perhaps, after a year of waiting you should start shouting at them !.......I would be fuming at this stage........furious

NCE 61

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

237 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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bluezeeland said:
Nick,

Sounds as if you are getting somewhere !

The euronorm for yours is 3, I think but the BIV will largely depend on the amount of CO² which has been noted in the PVG n° specs. There is all sorts of strange things going on there, e.i. my 430 is less in BIV then a 400 ??

btw; how are you finding the service at Passion ?

Frank
Hi Frank I am sure between Pascal & Marc it will get sorted. The service at Passion has been very good so far.

I also believe the emissions are Euro 3 as there are values of CO & HC/Nox on the registration document which are within the specifications for this, but there is no Co2 figure, so they may well take the PVG n° specs. Having a look at this site the Co2 for Tuscans, Sagaris & Tamoras varies between 247g/km and 259g/km which would seem to be correct for Euro 3. The figure on the CoC from TVR seems very high and if you calculate the figure from their fuel consumption figures it is correct, but the fuel consumption figures are way off real world figures IMO.

bluezeeland

1,965 posts

115 months

Saturday 10th October 2015
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The list on that site might well be PVG derived as it has 'inconsistencies' for instance a 4 l Chim is 279, a 4 l Griff is 297 a 5 l Chim/Griff is 254 and so on, so the figures for the Tuscan 4 l might well be your basis for BIV (lets hope so ! wink )

Anyway, kindly report progress !

Frank

Dutch_Cerbera

417 posts

148 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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Perhaps you have to ask yourself the question if you really need to register the Tuscan in Belgium. Perhaps you brother, sister, father or mother like (or dont mind) to have the Tuscan registered on their name (in the UK...). BTW owner and person on who a car is registered is not the same.

NCE 61

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

237 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Dutch_Cerbera said:
Perhaps you have to ask yourself the question if you really need to register the Tuscan in Belgium. Perhaps you brother, sister, father or mother like (or dont mind) to have the Tuscan registered on their name (in the UK...). BTW owner and person on who a car is registered is not the same.
Quiet a few people have asked me this question,and I have looked for options,but unfortunately I don't think there are any others for me frown

TopVpowerRoadste

210 posts

73 months

Sunday 25th October 2015
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Hi evveryone,

I imported my 2990 TVR S2 from the UK last year. I have a few things to finish off before registering it in Belgium.
I obtained the pink document from the custom. I have the cars' Uk registration documents and the last MOT which expired lat month, but I haven't got the COC. Any advice or suggestion on the procedure to register it in Belgium would be very welcome.
Best regards,

Geoffrey