The dedicated Science/Space thread!

The dedicated Science/Space thread!

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Seeker UK

1,442 posts

159 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Space is infinite
It is dark
Space is neutral
It is cold
Stars occupy minute areas of space
They are clustered a few billion here
And a few billion there
As if seeking consolation in numbers
Space does not care, space does not threaten
Space does not comfort
It does not speak, it does not wake
It does not dream
It does not know, it does not fear
It does not love, it does not hate
It does not encourage any of these qualities
Space cannot be measured, it cannot be
Angered, it cannot be placated
It cannot be summed up, space is there
Space is not large and it is not small
It does not live and it does not die
It does not offer truth and neither does it lie
Space is a remorseless, senseless, impersonal fact
Space is the absence of time and of matter

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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It's also a Liverpudlian band from the '90s.

Seeker UK

1,442 posts

159 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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TheHeretic said:
It's also a Liverpudlian band from the '90s.
And a French band from the 70s.

FeatherZ

2,422 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Recent article on Universe Today states that nearly every star in our Milky Way, has atleast 1 planet orbiting it, which if true is mind boggling, for me atleast.

FeatherZ

2,422 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Recent article on Universe Today states that nearly every star in our Milky Way, has atleast 1 planet orbiting it, which if true is mind boggling, for me atleast.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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FeatherZ said:
Recent article on Universe Today states that nearly every star in our Milky Way, has atleast 1 planet orbiting it, which if true is mind boggling, for me atleast.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=e...

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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This is the story that caught my eye. Given the distances involved, I wonder if we'll ever find others, let alone in my life time, but the notion that there are billions of planets out there is such food for thought.

There are I suppose two possibilities - us alone or life everywhere and either scenario is an amazing state of affairs.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Bedazzled said:
Amazing if true, plug that number into the Drake equation and our galaxy must be teeming with life. Apparently the estimate is based on a gravitational microlensing technique, but only 4 planets found this way have been confirmed so far, according to Wiki. And yet they think they can estimate an average for a whole galaxy of 200-400 billion stars??
Most of our explanet numbers are 'speculation' despite finding many hundred I think at the last count. Unless we find something unique about the stars in question then they can only assume, logically, that it is the norm.

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Bedazzled said:
Amazing if true, plug that number into the Drake equation and our galaxy must be teeming with life. Apparently the estimate is based on a gravitational microlensing technique, but only 4 planets found this way have been confirmed so far, according to Wiki. And yet they think they can estimate an average for a whole galaxy of 200-400 billion stars??
Most of our explanet numbers are 'speculation' despite finding many hundred I think at the last count. Unless we find something unique about the stars in question then they can only assume, logically, that it is the norm.
725 confirmed as of this morning with over 3000 suspects awaiting conformation.

Discoveries have been growning exponentially in the last few years and based on that, billions of planets and planets around nearly every star doesn't suprise me.

R300will

3,799 posts

152 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Why wouldn't there be planets around every star? they've all blown up at some stage and matter will have collected in different spots like it did in ours forming them?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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R300will said:
Why wouldn't there be planets around every star? they've all blown up at some stage and matter will have collected in different spots like it did in ours forming them?
In agreement.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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R300will said:
Why wouldn't there be planets around every star? they've all blown up at some stage and matter will have collected in different spots like it did in ours forming them?
I think that has been the suspicion, but it is only recently we have developed techniques to actually confirm it. As those techniques are refined, more and more planets are being revealed.

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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tank slapper said:
R300will said:
Why wouldn't there be planets around every star? they've all blown up at some stage and matter will have collected in different spots like it did in ours forming them?
I think that has been the suspicion, but it is only recently we have developed techniques to actually confirm it. As those techniques are refined, more and more planets are being revealed.
The ones I find really intrguing are the "dark planets" that the Japanesse found recently, they're really odd.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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MiniMan64 said:
The ones I find really intrguing are the "dark planets" that the Japanesse found recently, they're really odd.
Whats that then?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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They're painted black.

There was an article recently about a map of dark matter, making a huge web across the sky they centered their studies on. Made for interesting reading.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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This one?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21342-larges...

Just reading it. Interesting.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Yeah, that's the stuff.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Mind boggling nerd

Dark matter makes up 83 per cent of the universe's matter, but is invisible, so its presence must be inferred from its gravitational influence.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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NismoGT said:
Mind boggling nerd

Dark matter makes up 83 per cent of the universe's matter, but is invisible, so its presence must be inferred from its gravitational influence.
Yeah, it's one of those indirect evidence. Rather than direct evidence things. Even if proven wrong later on, they always seem to have some stunning imagery to go with them.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Isn't this the essence of astronomy? Because we have inferred how our solar system evolved, we can predict others and extrapolate the prediction to the universe. yet it remains just that, a prediction until observation confirms or dispels the prediction.

This is why the exoplanet discoveries are exciting to me, it's confirmation of something we suspect, but hitherto didn't know for certain.