Billions of habital planets in Milky Way
Discussion
Astronut said:
It has been decided (and this is absolutely true) that, in the event of contact being made with another civilisation, the word 'alien' MUST NOT be used as it is offensive, implying that they are being categorised as a life-form that is living in the wrong environment. They must be referred to as EBE's - Exo-Biological Entities...
Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
So what exactly is going to happen when the EBE's land and call us aliens?Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
Whilst the chap from Brussels is explaining we are human soft tissue nice kind people who care about other EBE's feelings he's going to be zapped with a million and seventy three and a half of exo-EBE fast killing spud ray and the EBE is going to smile and move onto the next prat, saying I really don't give a s
t take me to your leader 
Bring it on I say
Mr Gear said:
BarnatosGhost said:
Once anything has been proven to exist, as life has, the chances of it only existing once, in one place, are very low indeed.
But... It has evolved here only once in the planet's entire history. We all have one common ancestor. Life has only sprouted once.That is what I am led to believe.
Now, although that makes it very special, it doesn't of course make it impossible for it to start from scratch again somewhere else in the universe.
As it will almost certainly have done on millions of other planets elsewhere as and when conditions allow.
The idea of abiogenesis happening in one tiny living organism under the sea, which doubled and doubled and doubled, is not correct. The conditions for abiogenesis existed in lots of places on earth and many 'colonies' could have spontaneously initiated independently.
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
It has been decided (and this is absolutely true) that, in the event of contact being made with another civilisation, the word 'alien' MUST NOT be used as it is offensive, implying that they are being categorised as a life-form that is living in the wrong environment. They must be referred to as EBE's - Exo-Biological Entities...
Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
So what exactly is going to happen when the EBE's land and call us aliens?Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
Whilst the chap from Brussels is explaining we are human soft tissue nice kind people who care about other EBE's feelings he's going to be zapped with a million and seventy three and a half of exo-EBE fast killing spud ray and the EBE is going to smile and move onto the next prat, saying I really don't give a s
t take me to your leader Bring it on I say
Astronut said:
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
It has been decided (and this is absolutely true) that, in the event of contact being made with another civilisation, the word 'alien' MUST NOT be used as it is offensive, implying that they are being categorised as a life-form that is living in the wrong environment. They must be referred to as EBE's - Exo-Biological Entities...
Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
So what exactly is going to happen when the EBE's land and call us aliens?Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
Whilst the chap from Brussels is explaining we are human soft tissue nice kind people who care about other EBE's feelings he's going to be zapped with a million and seventy three and a half of exo-EBE fast killing spud ray and the EBE is going to smile and move onto the next prat, saying I really don't give a s
t take me to your leader Bring it on I say
BarnatosGhost said:
Mr Gear said:
BarnatosGhost said:
Once anything has been proven to exist, as life has, the chances of it only existing once, in one place, are very low indeed.
But... It has evolved here only once in the planet's entire history. We all have one common ancestor. Life has only sprouted once.That is what I am led to believe.
Now, although that makes it very special, it doesn't of course make it impossible for it to start from scratch again somewhere else in the universe.
As it will almost certainly have done on millions of other planets elsewhere as and when conditions allow.
The idea of abiogenesis happening in one tiny living organism under the sea, which doubled and doubled and doubled, is not correct. The conditions for abiogenesis existed in lots of places on earth and many 'colonies' could have spontaneously initiated independently.
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
It has been decided (and this is absolutely true) that, in the event of contact being made with another civilisation, the word 'alien' MUST NOT be used as it is offensive, implying that they are being categorised as a life-form that is living in the wrong environment. They must be referred to as EBE's - Exo-Biological Entities...
Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
So what exactly is going to happen when the EBE's land and call us aliens?Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
Whilst the chap from Brussels is explaining we are human soft tissue nice kind people who care about other EBE's feelings he's going to be zapped with a million and seventy three and a half of exo-EBE fast killing spud ray and the EBE is going to smile and move onto the next prat, saying I really don't give a s
t take me to your leader Bring it on I say
Bless you my son...
Astronut said:
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
HoHoHo said:
Astronut said:
It has been decided (and this is absolutely true) that, in the event of contact being made with another civilisation, the word 'alien' MUST NOT be used as it is offensive, implying that they are being categorised as a life-form that is living in the wrong environment. They must be referred to as EBE's - Exo-Biological Entities...
Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
So what exactly is going to happen when the EBE's land and call us aliens?Brussels can even wind its red feckin' tape around the necks of people from other stellar systems!
Whilst the chap from Brussels is explaining we are human soft tissue nice kind people who care about other EBE's feelings he's going to be zapped with a million and seventy three and a half of exo-EBE fast killing spud ray and the EBE is going to smile and move onto the next prat, saying I really don't give a s
t take me to your leader Bring it on I say
Bless you my son...
Goodwood at 7:30am, noise test at 8am and then a full tank used in 6, 5 lap sessions..........
And then relax......tomorrow night
Life will exist in other environments other than those that exist from the typical human's perspective.
It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
annodomini2 said:
BarnatosGhost said:
But life on earth is around 2 bn years old. The planet itself is around 5 bn years old. So once conditions allowed, life 'occurred'.
Hard evidence of life (Fossils) to 3.5 Billion years old, but speculative evidence of up to 4 billion years old.annodomini2 said:
Life will exist in other environments other than those that exist from the typical human's perspective.
It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
But...and I bow to superior knowledge, these conditions suggest to the best of our knowledge, severe limitations to the development of life I.e. overwhelming factor e.g radiation, anhydrous environment limit progression?It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
Justin Cyder said:
annodomini2 said:
Life will exist in other environments other than those that exist from the typical human's perspective.
It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
But...and I bow to superior knowledge, these conditions suggest to the best of our knowledge, severe limitations to the development of life I.e. overwhelming factor e.g radiation, anhydrous environment limit progression?It does here on Earth.
3 of my favorites:
1. High Radiation environment, most life search proposals list this as a non-life condition, we have bacteria that live inside nuclear reactors.
2. Certain chemicals required, most life search proposals specify a list of chemicals as life conditions, there are a wide variety of species on earth that don't use the entirety of these typical lists.
3. Water, currently thought to be critical in the formation of amino acids into proteins, but there is life on earth that does not require water, whether or not this is an evolutionary thing, who knows?
I personally believe that life will be much more varied and weird than we can currently imagine. It will exist and take hold where it's possible and probably where we currently think it's entirely impossible.
We like to think of aliens as based on carbon (like us) and standing on two legs (like us) for the same reason that religious people like to think their god is in human form. It's comfortable.
MartG said:
Claiming there is no other life in the universe is like scooping up some water, looking at the cup and claiming there are no whales in the ocean - Neil Tyson
Exellent quote. Really brings forward the vast perspective of the local galaxies, deep space and the prospect of life in the universe. It's out there, but 'we'll' never find it. Not in the next 1000 years anyway. I suspect we are lamb to the slaughter if contact with a superior species is ever made.
PD9 said:
MartG said:
Claiming there is no other life in the universe is like scooping up some water, looking at the cup and claiming there are no whales in the ocean - Neil Tyson
Exellent quote. Really brings forward the vast perspective of the local galaxies, deep space and the prospect of life in the universe. It's out there, but 'we'll' never find it. Not in the next 1000 years anyway. I suspect we are lamb to the slaughter if contact with a superior species is ever made.
Until we start allowing for true 'alienness', we're never going to have a properly open view on the possibilities of life types - which are (surely?) literally endless.
PD9 said:
Exellent quote. Really brings forward the vast perspective of the local galaxies, deep space and the prospect of life in the universe. It's out there, but 'we'll' never find it. Not in the next 1000 years anyway. I suspect we are lamb to the slaughter if contact with a superior species is ever made.
Sorry, guys, it is all for nowt. It would appear that your reasoning is at fault. See.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9194214/U...
Is there intelligent life on this planet?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9194214/U...
Is there intelligent life on this planet?
Derek Smith said:
Sorry, guys, it is all for nowt. It would appear that your reasoning is at fault. See.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9194214/U...
Is there intelligent life on this planet?
"The Discovery Institute, which helped draw up the proposed legislation, said however that it "promotes good science education by protecting the academic freedom of science teachers to fully and objectively discuss controversial scientific topics, like evolution"."http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9194214/U...
Is there intelligent life on this planet?
Piss set to simmer. There is no f
king controversy with Evolution! How many times does thing have to be explained!?!? 
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