Is I Robot the future of humanity?

Is I Robot the future of humanity?

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otolith

56,322 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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What tedious, interminable and ultimately depressing?

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Have you not seen Wall-E?

That, my friends, is where we're headed.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
MiseryStreak said:
CBR JGWRR said:
Bits of 1984 are practically certain.

Or World war 3.
Have you read 1984? They are living in a post world war state, that's part of the justification for the totalitarian society.

Of course robotics and artificial intelligence will be a feature of the future, but I don't think there will be such a clear divide between humans and robots, with the level of augmentation and nanotechnology we will effectively be the robots, the conflict will be between those who can't afford the 'upgrades' and those who can. This was quite well portrayed in the recent computer game Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

The next big leap in technology will be optical computers, at the moment, electronic microprocessors are limiting the speed and capacity of computing. They get too hot and electrons travel too slowly. Optical processors will change everything and lead to huge advances in nanotechnology and artificial intelligence.
I've skimmed through it.

I should have added thatI think World war 3 would pretty much end humanity, hence the use of or.
The book is a good read, Back as a teenager I found the film better, but that's only because she got her **** out. (apologies for the degredation in quality of the thread)

I've played through deus ex recently. It could be a likely future. What is certain however it that the current situation will not carry on for all that long. Either we will get a much bigger rich/poor country divide as our technological gains require ever more resources, or there will be some kind of global conflict/event in which the third world countries 'realise' they are paying for the first world success.

I also think a global scale war would be fought as guerilla warfare rather than a world war as with WW1&2. such a conflict would be more of a revolution, so much harder for anyone to win, ro for there to be any winners full stop.

CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Or a quick countdown...

Twincam16

27,646 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Butter Face said:
Have you not seen Wall-E?

That, my friends, is where we're headed.
It's worrying. I think everyone should be made to watch that film and allow it to guide a lot of future decision-making.

A lot of people see the fact it's a Disney animation with cartoon depictions of humans, but in reality it's serious dystopian sci-fi with a veneer of child-friendliness applied for mass-market appeal. Superb film, but yes, very very worrying.

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Twincam16 said:
Butter Face said:
Have you not seen Wall-E?

That, my friends, is where we're headed.
It's worrying. I think everyone should be made to watch that film and allow it to guide a lot of future decision-making.

A lot of people see the fact it's a Disney animation with cartoon depictions of humans, but in reality it's serious dystopian sci-fi with a veneer of child-friendliness applied for mass-market appeal. Superb film, but yes, very very worrying.
I only watched it a few months ago, Was gobsmacked by it TBH as it's actually quite an accurate portrayal of what's going to happen IMO.


CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Butter Face said:
Twincam16 said:
Butter Face said:
Have you not seen Wall-E?

That, my friends, is where we're headed.
It's worrying. I think everyone should be made to watch that film and allow it to guide a lot of future decision-making.

A lot of people see the fact it's a Disney animation with cartoon depictions of humans, but in reality it's serious dystopian sci-fi with a veneer of child-friendliness applied for mass-market appeal. Superb film, but yes, very very worrying.
I only watched it a few months ago, Was gobsmacked by it TBH as it's actually quite an accurate portrayal of what's going to happen IMO.
Only we still have bones?

Butter Face

30,371 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
Butter Face said:
Twincam16 said:
Butter Face said:
Have you not seen Wall-E?

That, my friends, is where we're headed.
It's worrying. I think everyone should be made to watch that film and allow it to guide a lot of future decision-making.

A lot of people see the fact it's a Disney animation with cartoon depictions of humans, but in reality it's serious dystopian sci-fi with a veneer of child-friendliness applied for mass-market appeal. Superb film, but yes, very very worrying.
I only watched it a few months ago, Was gobsmacked by it TBH as it's actually quite an accurate portrayal of what's going to happen IMO.
Only we still have bones?
Pretty sure the Humans in it still had bones biggrin

They were able to get up and walk eventually.

CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Ok, the use of them then? smile

I'm sure there were x-ray views in it at some point...

Cotty

39,626 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
I've skimmed through it.

I should have added thatI think World war 3 would pretty much end humanity, hence the use of or.
Have you seen Equilibrium? Set after WW3, no one can be trusted with their emotions so the entire population is doped up to minimise their reactions/emotions.

CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

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Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Cotty said:
CBR JGWRR said:
I've skimmed through it.

I should have added thatI think World war 3 would pretty much end humanity, hence the use of or.
Have you seen Equilibrium? Set after WW3, no one can be trusted with their emotions so the entire population is doped up to minimise their reactions/emotions.
That sounds even worse somehow...

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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I'm hoping it will be more like Warhammer 40,000

Bagsy the 400ft tall Titan Warmachine! smile

Cotty

39,626 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
That sounds even worse somehow...
They were saying humanity just survived WW3, it wouldn't survive WW4. Intersting premice, you should watch it.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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ill go for Peter F Hamiltons 'Pandoras Star' future please biggrin ooooh yes biggrin

CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Cotty said:
CBR JGWRR said:
That sounds even worse somehow...
They were saying humanity just survived WW3, it wouldn't survive WW4. Intersting premice, you should watch it.
World war 4 will be easy to survive - avoid the guys with clubs, rocks and sticks, while gathering your own clubs, rocks and sticks.

It's 3 that I'm concerned about...

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
Pixel Pusher said:
CBR JGWRR said:
I stopped watching when Will Smith crashed the MV Augusta. Knowing the film industry, several Augustas
This really upset you didn't it?
Yes, very much.
Not enough to spell it correctly, mind you wink

CBR JGWRR

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6,539 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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randlemarcus said:
CBR JGWRR said:
Pixel Pusher said:
CBR JGWRR said:
I stopped watching when Will Smith crashed the MV Augusta. Knowing the film industry, several Augustas
This really upset you didn't it?
Yes, very much.
Not enough to spell it correctly, mind you wink
That's how annoyed I am!

smile

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I think we're (western civilisation) possibly living in the best of times and places right now.

No global conflict (yet, or in the foreseeable future).

No, massive disease, or starvation or real poverty.

WW3 will happen at some point I guess, but I think what an earlier poster wrote is correct, it will be global revolution, where the sides are no where near clearly defined rather than a World War as we know. However, that will possibly get out of hand and result in the use of Nukes etc.

It will be started on purpose, by organised factions (terrorists etc), and possibly kicked off fully with the detonation of small Nukes in various locations around the world.

For example, you don't win a world war by fighting everyone, you get everyone to fight each other and then take over what (if anything) is left.

With money having such control over everything and the markets, Eurozone etc really struggling, governments spending more than they are ever going to get back in Taxes, IMHO, it's only going to get worse, starting in about 5-10 years.

My life has been fairly easy compared to my ancestors (WW1 and WW2 etc) and compared to what I think future generations will have to put up with. Hence why I think this is the best time to be alive.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Two scenarios.

1. Breakthroughs in nanotechnology increase human lifespans and eradicate disease. Everything is self repairing and replicating. Resources effectively become infinite as scavenger nanobots are spread across the solar system to mine resources.

2. Breakthroughs in nanotechnology leave the world drowning in grey goo.


The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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plasticpig said:
Two scenarios.

1. Breakthroughs in nanotechnology increase human lifespans and eradicate disease. Everything is self repairing and replicating. Resources effectively become infinite as scavenger nanobots are spread across the solar system to mine resources.

2. Breakthroughs in nanotechnology leave the world drowning in grey goo.
Meh. People have been trumpeting nanotech for decades, I've not seen any useful output yet. I used to do nanotech research and became most unconvinced by the whole idea.

Demolition Man is a particularly prescient view of the future I think. Enforced utopia at the expense of individual freedom. A lot of it is happening already.