hmm, UFO's

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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

238 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Don't go for UFO's myself, but this film of Buzz Aldrin got me pondering. Since the film was shot is there any further information as to what they saw, does anyone know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI

Vieste

10,532 posts

161 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Changedmyname

12,545 posts

182 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I heard it was a hoax.



5paul5

664 posts

172 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Well known fact that its actually a piece of their spacecraft.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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UFOs exist as Unidentified Flying Objects, there is a very good chance they aren't Alien just something normal but unexpected looking.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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5paul5 said:
Well known fact that its actually a piece of their spacecraft.
This. Upper stage after separation, the panels I believe. They would have been on a similar trajectory. One of these fellas I think? (earlier flight)

I understand there was some twisting of interviews as well?

5paul5

664 posts

172 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Read somewhere that it was made clear in the programme that it was a piece of spacecraft but was edited out, probably to make it more interesting.

Terminator X

15,094 posts

205 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Don't believe it myself due to the unique and many circumstances that gave rise to intelligent life on Earth plus even if it were the case we'd never see any other life forms due to the massive distances and time involved in travelling across the Universe.

TX.

maisoumenos

22 posts

137 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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There have been many credible sightings of UFOs in the past and my viewpoint is that the aliens are more intelligent than us humans in order to have found us first.
Their UFOs are made from incredibly advanced materials and power systems we have yet to come across.
And if scientists are looking for earth like planets elsewhere then it is logical to believe that those aliens on those planets will look similar to us because of the similar environment. Therefore who's not to say they have already landed and mixed in? Scary thought.

Stinkfoot

2,243 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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About 95% of UFO sightings can be explained but that still leaves 5% which cannot be explained. Older pictures and videos are far harder to debunk that modern ones.

Spitfire2

1,919 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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maisoumenos said:
. ........ then it is logical to believe that those aliens on those planets will look similar to us because of the similar environment. Therefore who's not to say they have already landed and mixed in? Scary thought.
Why is that logical? It's more logical to believe they would look different.

MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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PW said:
There isn't even one other species on Earth out of millions that share our environment that look like us.
It amazes me.

If you want to find snarling fanged beasts with super powers and a anti gravity boots, just research spiders!

So many amazing lifeforms living on our own planet, and it's imaginary green men that gets people's attention.



TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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maisoumenos said:
There have been many credible sightings of UFOs in the past and my viewpoint is that the aliens are more intelligent than us humans in order to have found us first.
Their UFOs are made from incredibly advanced materials and power systems we have yet to come across.
And if scientists are looking for earth like planets elsewhere then it is logical to believe that those aliens on those planets will look similar to us because of the similar environment. Therefore who's not to say they have already landed and mixed in? Scary thought.
bks.

Credible sightings - Which ones?
Aliens more intelligent - Not only have we no evidence of Alien life visiting us, but somehow you know about their intelligence levels?
Advanced materials - I presume this information is via the spacecraft you have no evidence of?
They will look similar to us - Us as in human? Us as in life on earth? have you seen the variation of life on earth, and that is just one petri dish in a vast universe of petri dishes?
Who is not to say what they have and have not done? - No-one. The issue arises when you make an assertion based on zero evidence at all.

MocMocaMoc

1,524 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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TheHeretic said:
maisoumenos said:
There have been many credible sightings of UFOs in the past and my viewpoint is that the aliens are more intelligent than us humans in order to have found us first.
Their UFOs are made from incredibly advanced materials and power systems we have yet to come across.
And if scientists are looking for earth like planets elsewhere then it is logical to believe that those aliens on those planets will look similar to us because of the similar environment. Therefore who's not to say they have already landed and mixed in? Scary thought.
bks.

Credible sightings - Which ones?
Aliens more intelligent - Not only have we no evidence of Alien life visiting us, but somehow you know about their intelligence levels?
Advanced materials - I presume this information is via the spacecraft you have no evidence of?
They will look similar to us - Us as in human? Us as in life on earth? have you seen the variation of life on earth, and that is just one petri dish in a vast universe of petri dishes?
Who is not to say what they have and have not done? - No-one. The issue arises when you make an assertion based on zero evidence at all.
No no, it is a scary thought.

Well, at least it was that time I watched They Live while off my t*ts on the strongest weed I've ever smoked.

Or listened to War of the Worlds on the strongest weed I've ever smoked.

Hang on...

Derek Smith

45,672 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Aliens more intelligent - Not only have we no evidence of Alien life visiting us, but somehow you know about their intelligence levels?

They will look similar to us - Us as in human? Us as in life on earth? have you seen the variation of life on earth, and that is just one petri dish in a vast universe of petri dishes?
I don't think we are intelligent enough to get to the stars: QED, the odds are that Aliens will probably have to be more intelligent than us.

Convergent evolution teaches one truth: it is the niche that defines the creature. If the requirements are the same then whatever fills the gap will have to have certain characteristics. This goes regardless of which petri dish you inhabit.


TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Derek Smith said:
I don't think we are intelligent enough to get to the stars: QED, the odds are that Aliens will probably have to be more intelligent than us.

Convergent evolution teaches one truth: it is the niche that defines the creature. If the requirements are the same then whatever fills the gap will have to have certain characteristics. This goes regardless of which petri dish you inhabit.
My issue is he is determining something without evidence about a group he has shown no evidence of. It is mere speculation.

Similar characteristics do not mean that we will look the same. Other planets will have a different gravitational pull, different chemical composition, different historical, geological events, and so on, and so forth.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

166 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Derek Smith

45,672 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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TheHeretic said:
My issue is he is determining something without evidence about a group he has shown no evidence of. It is mere speculation.
This is PH. Speculation defines it.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Derek Smith said:
TheHeretic said:
My issue is he is determining something without evidence about a group he has shown no evidence of. It is mere speculation.
This is PH. Speculation defines it.
That is just specul... Wait a minute!

nick heppinstall

8,077 posts

281 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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I've never seen a Saucer shaped object with flashing lights etc but in my lifetime I have seen some pretty strange things in the sky that I find hard to explain.

I'm certainty NOT saying they were alien spacecraft but I would love to know what they were ...