Meteor striker over Russia
Discussion
R500POP said:
Where's the landing "crater"? Not seen any images yet from the news sites.
Is it not a bit odd that in many videos there are two trails coming from the meteor?
Photo of hole in ice over lake on BBC News website where the remains alledgedly fell.Is it not a bit odd that in many videos there are two trails coming from the meteor?
Not odd, the dual trails. From looking at the footage it seems most videos only caught the final dive through the atmosphere where it most likely began to break up into bits. (only time it would have been visible) had it been slower no one would have seen a 10mtr object at that alttitude.
R500POP said:
Where's the landing "crater"? Not seen any images yet from the news sites.
Is it not a bit odd that in many videos there are two trails coming from the meteor?
Why would it be odd? If the object is in the process of breaking up into fragments, each fragment would experience friction as it fell through the atmosphere. If you have several big fragments that will burn up over a period of time, you'll get a sustained trail from each.Is it not a bit odd that in many videos there are two trails coming from the meteor?
Edited by R500POP on Friday 15th February 16:03
A tiny part of me wants to look at Infowars and Davidicke.com, as I can only imagine what insanity this has triggered. Without looking, I'm going to guess "secret weapon test disguised at meteorite" and "shot down alien spacecraft which the Illuminati controlled media are deliberately misreporting as a meteorite". That and HAARP, because that always gets blamed for something. I'll also guess the YouTube videos are filling up with people claiming it fulfills Biblical prophecy and how only Jesus can save us. Usual YouTube fare basically.
It certainly went off with a hell of a bang.
Bound to be a big one out there with our name firmly on it.
Wonder if
1) We will be able to detect it comming.
2) What we can do about it.
If we all went together in one big cosmic event like that it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
However a medium sized one that just kills 99% of us and leaves a few million skulking in caves or mines for several hundred years sounds pretty grim.
Anyway to quote Arthur C Clarke from his great novel 'Rendezvous with Rama'.
"Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. On June 30, 1908, Moscow escaped destruction by three hours and four thousand kilometers—a margin invisibly small by the standards of the universe. On February 12, 1947, another Russian city had a still narrower escape, when the second great meteorite of the twentieth century detonated less than four hundred kilometers from Vladivostok, with an explosion rivaling that of the newly invented uranium bomb.
In those days there was nothing that men could do to protect themselves against the last random shots in the cosmic bombardment that had once scarred the face of the Moon. The meteorites of 1908 and 1947 had struck uninhabited wilderness; but by the end of the twenty-first century there was no region left on Earth that could be safely used for celestial target practice. The human race had spread from pole to pole. And so, inevitably . . .
At 0946 GMT on the morning of September 11 in the exceptionally beautiful summer of the year 2077, most of the inhabitants of Europe saw a dazzling fireball appear in the eastern sky. Within seconds it was brighter than the Sun, and as it moved across the heavens—at first in utter silence—it left behind it a churning column of dust and smoke.
Somewhere above Austria it began to disintegrate, producing a series of concussions so violent that more than a million people had their hearing permanently damaged. They were the lucky ones.
Moving at fifty kilometers a second, a thousand tons of rock and metal impacted on the plains of northern Italy, destroying in a few flaming moments the labor of centuries. The cities of Padua and Verona were wiped from the face of the Earth; and the last glories of Venice sank forever beneath the sea as the waters of the Adriatic came thundering landward after the hammer blow from space.
Six hundred thousand people died, and the total damage was more than a trillion dollars. But the loss to art, to history, to science—to the whole human race, for the rest of time—was beyond all computation. It was as if a great war had been fought and lost in a single morning; and few could draw much pleasure from the fact that, as the dust of destruction slowly settled, for months the whole world witnessed the most splendid dawns and sunsets since Krakatoa.
After the initial shock, mankind reacted with a determination and a unity that no earlier age could have shown. Such a disaster, it was realized, might not occur again for a thousand years—but it might occur tomorrow. And the next time, the consequences could be even worse.
Very well; there would be no next time.
A hundred years earlier, a much poorer world, with far feebler resources, had squandered its wealth attempting to destroy weapons launched, suicidally, by mankind against itself. The effort had never been successful, but the skills acquired then had not been forgotten. Now they could be used for a far nobler purpose, and on an infinitely vaster stage. No meteorite large enough to cause catastrophe would ever again be allowed to breach the defenses of Earth.
So began Project SPACEGUARD."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceguard
Bound to be a big one out there with our name firmly on it.
Wonder if
1) We will be able to detect it comming.
2) What we can do about it.
If we all went together in one big cosmic event like that it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
However a medium sized one that just kills 99% of us and leaves a few million skulking in caves or mines for several hundred years sounds pretty grim.
Anyway to quote Arthur C Clarke from his great novel 'Rendezvous with Rama'.
"Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. On June 30, 1908, Moscow escaped destruction by three hours and four thousand kilometers—a margin invisibly small by the standards of the universe. On February 12, 1947, another Russian city had a still narrower escape, when the second great meteorite of the twentieth century detonated less than four hundred kilometers from Vladivostok, with an explosion rivaling that of the newly invented uranium bomb.
In those days there was nothing that men could do to protect themselves against the last random shots in the cosmic bombardment that had once scarred the face of the Moon. The meteorites of 1908 and 1947 had struck uninhabited wilderness; but by the end of the twenty-first century there was no region left on Earth that could be safely used for celestial target practice. The human race had spread from pole to pole. And so, inevitably . . .
At 0946 GMT on the morning of September 11 in the exceptionally beautiful summer of the year 2077, most of the inhabitants of Europe saw a dazzling fireball appear in the eastern sky. Within seconds it was brighter than the Sun, and as it moved across the heavens—at first in utter silence—it left behind it a churning column of dust and smoke.
Somewhere above Austria it began to disintegrate, producing a series of concussions so violent that more than a million people had their hearing permanently damaged. They were the lucky ones.
Moving at fifty kilometers a second, a thousand tons of rock and metal impacted on the plains of northern Italy, destroying in a few flaming moments the labor of centuries. The cities of Padua and Verona were wiped from the face of the Earth; and the last glories of Venice sank forever beneath the sea as the waters of the Adriatic came thundering landward after the hammer blow from space.
Six hundred thousand people died, and the total damage was more than a trillion dollars. But the loss to art, to history, to science—to the whole human race, for the rest of time—was beyond all computation. It was as if a great war had been fought and lost in a single morning; and few could draw much pleasure from the fact that, as the dust of destruction slowly settled, for months the whole world witnessed the most splendid dawns and sunsets since Krakatoa.
After the initial shock, mankind reacted with a determination and a unity that no earlier age could have shown. Such a disaster, it was realized, might not occur again for a thousand years—but it might occur tomorrow. And the next time, the consequences could be even worse.
Very well; there would be no next time.
A hundred years earlier, a much poorer world, with far feebler resources, had squandered its wealth attempting to destroy weapons launched, suicidally, by mankind against itself. The effort had never been successful, but the skills acquired then had not been forgotten. Now they could be used for a far nobler purpose, and on an infinitely vaster stage. No meteorite large enough to cause catastrophe would ever again be allowed to breach the defenses of Earth.
So began Project SPACEGUARD."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceguard
Speaking of which, live feed of the other one due this evening. On now.
http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2
I think?
http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2
I think?
Live webcast from the Clay Center Observatory will be here from around 11pm tonight:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/clay-center-observat...
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/clay-center-observat...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2157...
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/a...
Estimated size 7,000-10,000 tonnes....wow!
Energy released during explosive break-up appx 500 Kilotons - or (according to Wiki) about 25 Fat Man's...WOW!
Pretty impressive to a layman like me!
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/a...
Estimated size 7,000-10,000 tonnes....wow!
Energy released during explosive break-up appx 500 Kilotons - or (according to Wiki) about 25 Fat Man's...WOW!
Pretty impressive to a layman like me!
Bedazzled said:
I'm amazed it wasn't connected to DA14, what are the odds of two unrelated encounters within a few hours?!
Bear in mind we only saw this one because it entered the atmosphere. For all we know, loads of rocks this size are zipping past undetected on a regular basis. That would make DA14 the coincidental object rather than the Urals meteorite. That's kind of cool but also rather scary!
jmorgan said:
ho ho.... didn't see that one coming.....
Neither did the Russians 
Saw the prog this evening - not bad, loads of car-cam footage (a big thing in Russia due to insurance claims). Everyone rushed to the windows to look at the vapour trail - then 2.5 mins later came the air blast which blew them in...
In fact they said there were there were several explosions, which was not obvious from the clips.
As the bang and blast arrived together I deduce air shock waves travel at the speed of sound - so 2.5 mins gives a distance from explosion/s to city of about 32 miles.
Certainly by far the best recorded incident of this kind.
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