end of the universe????

end of the universe????

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Slink

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2,947 posts

173 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I know this will not happen for billions of years, but i just thought of it, so thought i would ask your views

what will happen when all of the stars in the universe burn out and turn into black holes?

as life needs sunlight and heat to survive, that would be it for live everywere in the universe would it not? as soon as the final star dies, there will be no more life anywhere, right?

ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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quite difficult for me get my head round that, but yeah, that's my understanding

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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certainly life as we know it all stops at absolte zero, so with no heat sources that would be it.
It would be a wee while after the final habitable planets star gives up the ghost.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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We are talking hundreds of billions or perhaps even thousands of billions of years in the future.

ReallyReallyGood

1,622 posts

131 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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'Heat death' is but one of several hypothesised eventual outcomes of our universe, albeit the most accepted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_uni...

I prefer the Big Bounce theory myself, where the universe will ultimately collapse in on itself and the big-bang is repeated.

Getragdogleg

8,772 posts

184 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I wonder if this whole lot is actually sort of circular, and if we looked beyond what we believe is the smallest visible or theoretical thing we would eventually find the edges of what we think of as the edge of the known universe and that actually if you keep going down and down and down you would eventually get back to right here reading this.

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Science, not philosophy.

Getragdogleg

8,772 posts

184 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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LordGrover said:
Science, not philosophy.
Where is the line though ? when you start discussing "the universe" the possibilities for it to really confuse the hell out of us little people are numerous.

We will never really get it because it is too complicated and none of us will ever know because we will not be around that long.

eldar

21,798 posts

197 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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ReallyReallyGood said:
'Heat death' is but one of several hypothesised eventual outcomes of our universe, albeit the most accepted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_uni...

I prefer the Big Bounce theory myself, where the universe will ultimately collapse in on itself and the big-bang is repeated.
The big bounce seems to be logical. More plausible than religionsmile

Shaolin

2,955 posts

190 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Iron is the most stable element (so I was told once, in terms of least energetic) so the universe is slowly becoming iron, very cold iron, at nearly absolute zero. A quick google suggests that this will take about 10^1000000000000000000000000000 (26 zeros) years. This is sort of scary except it's stupidly longer than the 1.4 x 10^7 years we've had so far so I'm not much bothered - and it might be wrong anyway.

Chilli

17,318 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Interesting. When this happenedd, perhaps it all goes quiet for a while and then there's another "Big Bang" and the whole process starts again. Perhaps this cycle has happened countless times already?

TheD

3,133 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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eldar said:
The big bounce seems to be logical. More plausible than religionsmile
Did they not recently agree that the bounce theory was unlikely (although not ruled out)due to the universe actually speeding up its expansion, and that they believe there just isn't enough gravity to pull it back together again.

Plus me moving in with 3 stunning nymphos is more plausible than religion.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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The most plausible (based on the information we currently have available are:

1. The big chill
2. The big rip

The big chill is mentioned, everything spreads apart and gets very cold.

The big rip is based on the current understanding that the expansion of the universe is accelerating and therefore there will come a point where the expansion tears the universe apart.

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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as the universe continues to expand and we move further away from everything it will get dark long before the stars all burn out anyway afaik.

the night sky will be totally black apart from the moon if it is still there...


Ijm

34,302 posts

218 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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By then we'll be creating our own brand spanking new Universes to escape into.

Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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ReallyReallyGood said:
'Heat death' is but one of several hypothesised eventual outcomes of our universe, albeit the most accepted.
Entropy wins in the end.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Ijm said:
By then we'll be creating our own brand spanking new Universes to escape into.
I do that most days nuts

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Shaolin said:
Ijm said:
By then we'll be creating our own brand spanking new Universes to escape into.
I do that most days nuts
Classic video game Elite is getting a 21st Century makeover.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20165344


tapkaJohnD

1,945 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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The Moon will not be there when the nearest star is so far away due to Universe expansion that it disappears, when it's too far away for its light to have got here to see. Because long before then the Sun will be coming to the end of its life, and become a Red Giant with a diameter greater than the orbit of the Earth around it. So we won't be there either.

JOhn

PD9

1,997 posts

186 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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