Paul Hellyer and these aliens........

Paul Hellyer and these aliens........

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Mr Noble

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234 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Many of you will have no doubt seen this video and the other associated ones by now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdvYFMBAU

In it, Paul Hellyer, ex Canadian Defence minister speaks of the non-disclosure of what "we" know about aliens and among other things, he states that ET's have been visiting Earth for many years and that there are currently 4 species visiting and even living here on Earth.

Quite a sensational thing to come out with.

I assume he's deluded as obviously such things would make the biggest news story since God created heaven and earth wink

What are the collective's thoughts on this, and those other people who have before and since, come out to tell their ET/UFO stories.

Why won't the powers that be tell us the truth!? Is it because there is nothing to tell.........?



B17NNS

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248 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Simpo Two

85,549 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Mr Noble said:
and that there are currently 4 species visiting and even living here on Earth.
Civil servants
Chavs
PHers

Not sure of the 4th...

Mr Noble

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234 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Why would the honourable gentleman bother saying such things? Surely not just to help flog a few books?


mu0n

2,348 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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My grandad is going through a similar thing, think it's Alzheimers.

Very grounded, level headed guy.

Now he thinks 7 Day Adventists have taken over his town and that he's being spied on. He thinks his neighbour is planning to do something to harm him and our family and that he's actually seen the other neighbour bouncing around on springs that come out of his shoes.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Presumably, if you rule out the Area 51 advocates, there is nobody who has seen an alien and actually got a HD pic or body part as evidence. So nobody knows what they look like. So how do we know those wriggly things on natural science programmes are not alien? And why would they be ugly? F’rinstance, why can’t an alien look like Salma Hayek?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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SO, lets say aliens exist. How exactly does that affect in your life? Yup, you still gota get out of bed tomorrow and go to work like any other day in your life!

All these conspiracy theories are all the same, from 911, to moon hoaxes to aliens etc etc They are all irrelevant!

Mr Noble

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234 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Surely it's one of humanity's most important questions.

I'd quite like to know if we are alone or not in the universe.

It would raise quite a lot of questions about religion, and may eventually lead to and end to all religious wars and conflict.

I'm sure we would all still get up for work in the morning, but humankind would never be the same again.

Thorodin

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134 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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When you consider how many people have died through the ages as a result of religious beliefs or intolerance, causing invasions or wars where both sides believed their god was on only their side, I’m quite surprised that even the zealots fail to question their own mantras.

Add to that the interminable abject suffering and misery there is in the world and it seems rather obvious that those who believe in their particular god are at best mistaken and at worst charlatans. In light of this, is there anyone today who still maintains the beliefs of the ancient Greeks or Romans that worshipped their entirely made up deities?

Maybe visits from aliens, should there be any that could get here, would do us all a favour and awaken belief in our own mortality rather than a fictitious immortality.
And if so, what a privilege it would be to meet them.

GG89

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187 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Max_Torque said:
SO, lets say aliens exist. How exactly does that affect in your life? Yup, you still gota get out of bed tomorrow and go to work like any other day in your life!

All these conspiracy theories are all the same, from 911, to moon hoaxes to aliens etc etc They are all irrelevant!
What a stupid statement.

Toltec

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224 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Mr Noble said:
I assume he's deluded as obviously such things would make the biggest news story since God created heaven and earth wink
Not sure I understand that, you are saying he is deluded because it would be the biggest story since another delusion?

205alive

6,087 posts

177 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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What about this one that's buried in the cemetary in Aurora, Texas? Quite a story - seems to have provenance.

B17NNS

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248 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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205alive said:
What about this one that's buried in the cemetary in Aurora, Texas? Quite a story - seems to have provenance.
Just spitballing here, but hows about digging it up and finding out?

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

171 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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B17NNS said:
Just spitballing here, but hows about digging it up and finding out?
that site was alledgedly off limits for a long while and the headstone was removed and again #alledgely# material had been removed from the site.
If there was any shred of evidence there I would doubt that its still in place..

humpbackmaniac

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242 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Thorodin said:
Presumably, if you rule out the Area 51 advocates, there is nobody who has seen an alien and actually got a HD pic or body part as evidence. So nobody knows what they look like. So how do we know those wriggly things on natural science programmes are not alien? And why would they be ugly? F’rinstance, why can’t an alien look like Salma Hayek?
Because if they did I would have paddled my way to their planet in a dug out canoe, carrying a metric tonne of Salsa if needs be!

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Well that's not very scientific. But if your canoe was a two seater....

Halb

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184 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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205alive said:
What about this one that's buried in the cemetary in Aurora, Texas? Quite a story - seems to have provenance.
What's that?

Simpo Two

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266 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Thorodin said:
In light of this, is there anyone today who still maintains the beliefs of the ancient Greeks or Romans that worshipped their entirely made up deities?
All gods are made up. If you have to have a religion, then Shinto which worships one's ancestors, or Ra the sun god make the best sense - as you need ancestors and sun to be in existence.

Thorodin said:
Maybe visits from aliens, should there be any that could get here, would do us all a favour and awaken belief in our own mortality rather than a fictitious immortality.
Why would meeting an alien make you feel mortal as opposed to immortal? The alien will be equally mortal... The various 'heavens' cooked up by religions are merely a coping mechanism - but if belief in an afterlife makes you feel better then why not?

Thorodin

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134 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Thorodin said:
In light of this, is there anyone today who still maintains the beliefs of the ancient Greeks or Romans that worshipped their entirely made up deities?
All gods are made up. If you have to have a religion, then Shinto which worships one's ancestors, or Ra the sun god make the best sense - as you need ancestors and sun to be in existence.

Agreed. My main aim was to highlight the futility of following the prophets of all modern religions and to draw a parallel between the lack of validity of “classical” gods and the modern equivalent – just as ridiculous. If we now, rightly, disavow the ancients, why do supposedly intelligent men
insist on their apparent belief in a later version of a similar credo?



Thorodin said:
Maybe visits from aliens, should there be any that could get here, would do us all a favour and awaken belief in our own mortality rather than a fictitious immortality.
Why would meeting an alien make you feel mortal as opposed to immortal? The alien will be equally mortal... The various 'heavens' cooked up by religions are merely a coping mechanism - but if belief in an afterlife makes you feel better then why not?
I did say maybe! And I don’t believe in an afterlife! When I said “do us all a favour…” I meant a visit from aliens might give rise to a major upheaval in belief systems and provoke mass rejection of the heavenly mantra.





Simpo Two

85,549 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th September 2013
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That's true enough - and we'd be drowned in a sea of conspiracy theorists and half-baked loonies which would probably take up 99% of the newstime while Johnny Alien couldn't get a word in edgeways...