Army Helicopter's UFO Scare Still A Mystery, 40 Years Later

Army Helicopter's UFO Scare Still A Mystery, 40 Years Later

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RegMolehusband

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3,960 posts

257 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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What gets me about these discussions is that because of the deeply ingrained association between UFOs and alien visitation then intelligent people feel disinclined to accept that the witnesses actually witnessed a physical craft. The stranger the appearance and the more impossible the flight characteristics of this supposed craft then the stronger the denial that sane and very switched on people actually saw anything of consequence.

For example, if Pistonheads' own EricMc could distance himself from the ET connection then he should be absolutely fascinated by the silent flying triangles that have been witnessed by thousands all over the World for decades. There is mountains of evidence that these exist but of course few investigate them because of the stigma of being involved in something that many believe to be ET-related.

The only Earthly explanation for silent flying triangles is that a government has developed the mother of all stealth aircraft. In fact it's so stealthy that they want to keep it that way hence no bedroom posters for the kids and they silently hover happily over UK backyards and countryside secure in the knowledge that anybody seeing them and crying UFO will be disregarded as mistaken or another nutter. <mischief mode> They also possibly want to to keep their existence a secret because the technology they use wasn't first developed in this solar system wink </mischief mode>

Come on Eric, Google Silent Flying Triangle 2013 and tell us what you think is going on here! It's right up your street smile

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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No, people accept what they want to hear. The evidence is there, it is very questionable. I have seen what people will accept when the actual events are nothing as described by the persons wanting it to be aliens.

"The only Earthly explanation for silent flying triangles" etc etc. Why your interpretation? There are others. It should read "One of the theories is" and then, "the more plausible is" etc etc. "The only" indicates you have examined in depth the alternatives and ruled them out.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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RegMolehusband said:
Come on Eric, Google Silent Flying Triangle 2013 and tell us what you think is going on here! It's right up your street smile
Strange how, considering the progress made with camera technology over the last 50 years, the images on show are just as blurry as the alien hub cap photos from the 60's.


Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Hilts said:
Eric Mc said:
No - because an extraordinary claim can be completely made up or be made by someone who is totally clueless. And authorities don't have the resources to waste investigating dumb claims made by the clueless, ignorant or mischevious.

It may be a chestnut but it is a valid chestnut.
What about claims by military pilots or astronauts or are they totally clueless?
Sometimes, they are.
What about the times they are not, are their extraordinary claims then not worth investigating?

I say they are.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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And they have been investigated where appropriate.

The whole UFO thing is a pile off old cock and it always has been.

After 70 years of so called sightings there is still not one scintilla of evidence that ANYTHING has ever been seen that has anything to do with extra-terrestrial life.

And as for so called "black projects" (mystery flying triangles included) - of course these have existed but ALWAYS after a relatively few short years the true nature of each project has emerged and a real vehicle revealed.
There have been enough REAL flying triangles built for idiots who don't know what they are looking at to misidentify them - from Vulcans to Mirages to Delta Daggers and a whole host of other real aeroplanes.

The idea that secret technologies and craft can fly around for decades without something concrete emerging about them is utter tripe of the highest order and only fit for those who wish to believe in nonsensical conspiracy theories.

I wish people just gave this whole area a rest and used their brains - and redirect their sense of wonder - to more useful pursuits.

Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 27th October 20:26

Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
And they have been investigated where appropriate.

The whole UFO thing is a pile off old cock and it always has been.


Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 27th October 20:26
You really think so?

In your opinion then every single UFO report is explainable or a crock?

There are some senior military officers who would disagree with you and they have real world experience, they're not just internet forum jockeys.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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I do think so.

I've read enough about the whole phenomenon over nearly 50 years to come to the conclusion that it is essentially crock - all of it.

It's a total waste of human brain power. If you are genuinely interested in spacecraft, extra-terrestrials or secret projects, learn about the REAL work that is going on in these areas and not pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo pedalled by charlatans, nutters and the ignorant.

Of course, now and then there will be "sightings" that are unexplained - but only because the person who made the sighting wasn't in a position to positively understand what they actually saw. - either because they were mistaken, didn't get a decent view of what they saw or are idiots - the latter being the more usual explanation.


Hilts

4,391 posts

282 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
I do think so.

I've read enough about the whole phenomenon over nearly 50 years to come to the conclusion that it is essentially crock - all of it.
Fair enough.

What was over Belgium in 1990 in your opinion?

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Lots of stuff would have been over Belgium in 1990.

Do you want to elaborate on what you are talking about.

RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

3,960 posts

257 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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So you clearly haven't looked into silent black triangles at all then if you know nothing about Belgium 1990?

RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

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Sunday 27th October 2013
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P.S. Eric - I don't know if you know but Vulcans, Mirages and Delta Daggers make a LOT of noise as do other recent black project aircraft.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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RegMolehusband said:
P.S. Eric - I don't know if you know but Vulcans, Mirages and Delta Daggers make a LOT of noise as do other recent black project aircraft.
If they are flying very, very high (over 50,000 feet) which some of those aircraft could - even in the mid 1950s, very little if any of their engine noise would make it to ground level.

An SR-71 or U-2 flying at 70,000 feet would produce no noise to ground based observer.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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RegMolehusband said:
So you clearly haven't looked into silent black triangles at all then if you know nothing about Belgium 1990?
I read a bit about Aurora and related stuff 20 odd years ago (when it was being discussed in mainstream aviation publications) but can't remember details of all the so called sitings. The one that does stick in my mind was the Macrahannish siting.

RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

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257 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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You haven't looked into it at all - these fly at 100ft, silently.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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RegMolehusband said:
You haven't looked into it at all - these fly at 100ft, silently.
Well, put me in the picture then. That's what these forums are about - discussing.

Dates.
Times.
Locations.
Witnesses.

Tell me what you have read.

If they are genuine aircraft, why aren't they discussed in mainstream publications - such as Flight International or Aviation News?

Although I really hate the fact that this non-science ends up in the Science Forum.

Terminator X

15,082 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Why haven't we met any of these aliens yet especially if it's been going on for so long?

TX.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Interesting case, haven't heard of this one before.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
RegMolehusband said:
You haven't looked into it at all - these fly at 100ft, silently.
Well, put me in the picture then. That's what these forums are about - discussing.

Dates.
Times.
Locations.
Witnesses.

Tell me what you have read.

If they are genuine aircraft, why aren't they discussed in mainstream publications - such as Flight International or Aviation News?

Although I really hate the fact that this non-science ends up in the Science Forum.
A good quality photo would not go a miss too. Google images does not come up trumps when I search "Black Triangle Belguim", but I do appear to be getting lots of girls in small black bikinis, so not a total waste of time.

RegMolehusband

Original Poster:

3,960 posts

257 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Well, put me in the picture then. That's what these forums are about - discussing.

Dates.
Times.
Locations.
Witnesses.

Tell me what you have read.

If they are genuine aircraft, why aren't they discussed in mainstream publications - such as Flight International or Aviation News?

Although I really hate the fact that this non-science ends up in the Science Forum.
DYOR Eric - it's all out there if you can be bothered to spend 20 minutes on the subject that you know nothing about but on which you already have a firm opinion.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th October 2013
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Hilts said:
In your opinion then every single UFO report is explainable or a crock?
There have been so many reports that are known to be a total crock. In the absence of any real evidence the chances of the relatively few unexplained reports from relatively credible people, entirely in line with works of fiction, not being a crock or known phenomenon must be impossibly low.