Comet ISON

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Uncle John

4,302 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Is this the Lotus Carlton of comets?

I can see the Daily Wail headlines already!!

nelly1

5,630 posts

232 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Ison servers maxed out!

ETA - 813,000mph!

Edited by nelly1 on Thursday 28th November 17:53

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Not long to go now!

*fingers crossed*

central

16,744 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Someone on Twitter is saying it's evaporated.

jonny142

1,508 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Is it a gonner?

FunkyNige

8,897 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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benjj said:
Is it a gonner?
The Youtube hangout thing is pretty much saying "Still waiting, but it's not looking good."

Eric Mc

122,089 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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The debris study guys are getting all excited - but the comet watchers are getting depressed.

bluey1905

248 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Oh well, we still have Lovejoy, which looked ok the other night.

SWH

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1,261 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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Looks like some of the tail is still there, but that's it.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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BBC saying it was all but destroyed. cry

tapkaJohnD

1,945 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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What's the scale of that obscuring disc that hides the Sun?
ISON was suppsoed to go withn 1million Ks of the Solar surface, so that is had gone behind the disc may be predictable.
JOhn

MiniMan64

16,945 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th November 2013
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RIP ISON

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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BBC now saying that a fragment may have survived.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2514...

Comet Ison, or some part of it, may have survived its encounter with the Sun, say scientists.

The giant ball of ice and dust was initially declared dead when it failed to re-emerge from behind the star with the expected brightness.

All that could be seen was a dull smudge in telescope images - its nucleus and tail assumed destroyed.

But recent pictures have indicated a brightening of what may be a small fragment of the comet.

Astronomers admit to being surprised and delighted, but now caution that anything could happen in the coming hours and days.

This remnant of Ison could continue to brighten, or it could simply fizzle out altogether.

Karl Banttam wrote on the Nasa Comet Ison Observing Campaign: "It does appear that a least some small fraction of Ison has remained in one piece and is actively releasing material.

"We have no idea how big this nucleus is, if there is indeed one. If there is a nucleus, it is still too soon to tell how long it will survive.

"If it does survive for more than a few days, it is too soon to tell if the comet will be visible in the night sky."

How much of the once 2km-wide hunk of dirty ice may be intact is impossible to say.

Passing just 1.2 million km above the surface of the Sun would have severely disrupted it. Its ices would have vaporized rapidly in temperatures over 2,000C. And the immense gravity of the star would also have pulled and squeezed on the object as it tumbled end over end.

Whatever happens, comets are going to be a big feature in the news over the next year. In 11 months' time, Comet Siding Spring will breeze past Mars at a distance of little more than 100,000km. And then in November 2014, the European Space Agency's Rosetta mission will attempt to place a probe on the nucleus of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Eric Mc

122,089 posts

266 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Definitely looks like something survived.

onyx39

11,128 posts

151 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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I really hope so... anyone on here photographing it?

Eric Mc

122,089 posts

266 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Depends on where the nucleus is - or even if there is a nucleus now.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Aren't the particles in the tail subject to gravitational pull when the comet nears the sun, which is why the tail isn't pointing away?

Looks like this isn't going to be the spectacle we were hoping, but still a chance we'll see something with the naked eye from Dec 1st perhaps?

tapkaJohnD

1,945 posts

205 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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The 'normal' comet tail, that points away from the sun, is made of ions, that are so small that they are accelerated by the Solar wind to point away from the Sun. This tail is probably dust, and relatively large fragments of dust, that are left behind the comet in its orbit, and are only slowly pushed away from the Sun, beacause they are so big and heavy.

That ISON is leaving such a heavy dust tail may mean that it has fragmented, and that the body now really is the gravel heap of theory, no longer held together by ice, now evaporated. It has survived a Close Encounter, during which tidal forces could have split it up into a 'string of beads' like Shoemaker before it hit Jupiter, but more time will tell.

JOhn