Any Electrical Engineers around?

Any Electrical Engineers around?

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RYH64E

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7,960 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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spikeyhead said:
Try them either end of each cable
Every cable? There are loads of them!

rossw46

1,293 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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rossw46 said:
Is the supply into the controller 3 phase ?
You say 3 phase supply to two sockets. The sockets must then surely be single phase, which is then supplied to the motor controller ?

RYH64E

Original Poster:

7,960 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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rossw46 said:
You say 3 phase supply to two sockets. The sockets must then surely be single phase, which is then supplied to the motor controller ?
It's a 3 phase supply and a 3 phase motor, but the inverter is 220v single phase. Apparently that's usual, I don't know.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Looks like std cable has been used, rather than Shielded cable!

Get some proper 3phase shielded cable, and connect the shield to the inverter earth/chassis terminal (only connect one end of the shield)!

rossw46

1,293 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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RYH64E said:
rossw46 said:
You say 3 phase supply to two sockets. The sockets must then surely be single phase, which is then supplied to the motor controller ?
It's a 3 phase supply and a 3 phase motor, but the inverter is 220v single phase. Apparently that's usual, I don't know.
That manufacturer does make a variant that takes a 3 phase input, but yes, yours most certainly only wants a single phase + neutral input at 220V. Do you know if both of your controllers are fed off of the same phase, or different phases ?

RYH64E

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Max_Torque said:
Looks like std cable has been used, rather than Shielded cable!

Get some proper 3phase shielded cable, and connect the shield to the inverter earth/chassis terminal (only connect one end of the shield)!
The main 3 phase cable feeding the machine is armoured (I think that's the term) with a heavy woven steel shround around the individual cables, the shround is earthed to the machine body.

RYH64E

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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rossw46 said:
Do you know if both of your controllers are fed off of the same phase, or different phases ?
The electrician who did the install tried different phases but it made no difference.

rossw46

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161 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Which terminals are the other 2 wires at the top connected to ?

RYH64E

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Tuesday 17th December 2013
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rossw46 said:
Which terminals are the other 2 wires at the top connected to ?
Which wires?

rossw46

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161 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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The black one, and the green / yellow, looks as though theyre connected into the control terminals above the main terminals ?

RYH64E

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7,960 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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I'll have a look tomorrow.

RYH64E

Original Poster:

7,960 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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I'll have a look tomorrow.

blitzracing

6,392 posts

221 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Just a thought from College 20 years ago.....- could you be getting a phase shift between the current and voltage wave forms when the second motor is switched in? I know this is an issue with inductive loads, and you have to compensate by adding capacitance across the motor that has the opposite affect to get them back in phase again. There was a similar trick used by some to slow your electricity meter down, by forcing a phase shift between voltage and current so the overall power reading is lower. It certainly screws up the mains wave forms.

jeebus

445 posts

185 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Going off the pictures and info so far I would guess that you are getting harmonics down the neutral which is causing the other one to misbehave, Inverters like to do funny things to the sine wave of the supply which can sometimes cause unusual problems.

I would say you need a separate supply from the distribution board to each machine, also make sure that the inverter has been commissioned correctly to the motor, we sometimes get pumps that ramp up and down of their own accord at work when the motors are replaced with a slightly different spec one.