Airbus drop test spacecraft model

Airbus drop test spacecraft model

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MartG

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20,705 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Airbus' idea of a spaceplane came a little closer to fruition with a successful drop test of a scale model today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2768...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Looks like a fairground ride rather than a step forward in any practical terms

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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It's obviously not a design for orbital spaceflight but rather (like Virgin Galactic) aimed at suborbital flight.

I'm sure they know what they are doing but the length of those wings would not seem to me to be conducive to a re-entry from space - even at the much lower sub-orbital velocities that a craft like this would experience.

tapkaJohnD

1,947 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Quote "It involved a helicopter lifting the model off a barge and then carrying it aloft."

Well, I suppose you have to start somewhere.
JOhn


MartG

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205 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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tapkaJohnD said:
Quote "It involved a helicopter lifting the model off a barge and then carrying it aloft."
Concorde started with models being chucked out of a helicopter wink ( though they didn't go all the way to Singapore to do it )

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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It's a standard method of testing aircraft and spacecraft designs to see how they behave in flight.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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There was a program some years back about "new" space technologies, and it covered a group of people looking at building a "space elevator". Well, as this is quite a difficult task, so they decided to start with the simple bit and build a machine to climb a rope hanging from a tree! er? Why even bother to do that, afterall, monkeys can climb ropes! Needless to say the voice over suggested that because of this, the space elevator is a completely feasible new technology........

tapkaJohnD

1,947 posts

205 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Eric Mc said:
It's a standard method of testing aircraft and spacecraft designs to see how they behave in flight.
It's not the same though, is it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YNcwc1ZME

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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tapkaJohnD said:
Eric Mc said:
It's a standard method of testing aircraft and spacecraft designs to see how they behave in flight.
It's not the same though, is it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YNcwc1ZME
Didn't say it was - but dropping scale models from aircraft and helicopters has been used as a testing method for decades - including by NASA.

Tempest_5

603 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Next test will be probably be a drop from a high altitude balloon. They are building up the testing slowly & methodically to try to avoid nasty surprises.

I'm not sure what altitude the spaceplane is meant to operate at but the straight wing does not preclude orbital flight. One of the early concepts for the Space Shuttle was straight winged. Evidently it was to come into the atmosphere at a high angle of attack in something like a stalled condition and then revert to conventional flight once it had reached denser air.

Edited by Tempest_5 on Sunday 8th June 23:54

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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They didn't persist with the straight winged versions for long though.

I know the Shuttle design went through a vast number of permutations - mainly because of the added requirements of the USAF, but it was realised early on that a straight wing was not such great idea.

In fact, NASA's original ideas involved a shape with no wing at all, the lifting body concept. It was the USAF who wanted wings - and it was the delta shape that proved the best option.

Zombie

1,587 posts

196 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Max_Torque said:
There was a program some years back about "new" space technologies, and it covered a group of people looking at building a "space elevator". Well, as this is quite a difficult task, so they decided to start with the simple bit and build a machine to climb a rope hanging from a tree! er? Why even bother to do that, afterall, monkeys can climb ropes! Needless to say the voice over suggested that because of this, the space elevator is a completely feasible new technology........
Arthur C Clark's written a (fictional) book based on a similar premise. Can't remember what it was called though.

Eric Mc

122,108 posts

266 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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"The Fountains of Paradise" - written in 1979.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Zombie said:
Max_Torque said:
There was a program some years back about "new" space technologies, and it covered a group of people looking at building a "space elevator". Well, as this is quite a difficult task, so they decided to start with the simple bit and build a machine to climb a rope hanging from a tree! er? Why even bother to do that, afterall, monkeys can climb ropes! Needless to say the voice over suggested that because of this, the space elevator is a completely feasible new technology........
Arthur C Clark's written a (fictional) book based on a similar premise. Can't remember what it was called though.
Very difficult and fraught with risks, we could probably manage one of these though if the political will and money were there.