SpaceX Tuesday...

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Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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That is brilliant.

FurtiveFreddy

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238 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Too cloudy here to see anything last night. ISS is due to be over me at 22:37 tonight. Will the Dragon be close by then?

Eric Mc

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Sunday 4th June 2017
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Too cloudy here to see anything last night. ISS is due to be over me at 22:37 tonight. Will the Dragon be close by then?
It should be getting closer. The rendezvous and docking is scheduled for Tuesday.

By tonight I would expect all you will see is the Dragon itself rather than the Dragon and the bits it discarded.


FurtiveFreddy

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238 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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If we do see it tonight, I'm thinking the Dragon will be behind the ISS someway and much dimmer.

Tomorrow's passes are too low in the sky for me to see, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for tonight and see if I can get a photo and some video.

Beati Dogu

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140 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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The ISS orbits about 250 miles above the earth, but Dragon is released by the second stage at around 130 miles up.

Then they slowly do a series of separate burns for height-adjustment (HA) and co-elliptic orbit (CE) over a couple of days to step it up close to ISS.

They're really paranoid about spacecraft approaching the ISS and they bring them in really slow. It takes about 40 minutes to go from 250 meters out to 30 meters. At that point they run a system check to make sure everything is working OK. After that they'll creep it in again. They don't trust them to dock themselves yet, so they grab them with the Canadarm and pull them in on that.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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I actually think that grappling and then berthing a spacecraft makes much more sense anyway.

Einion Yrth

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245 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Beati Dogu said:
They don't trust them to dock themselves yet,.
Dragon 1 cannot dock, it must be berthed. That kind of requires Canadarm.

FurtiveFreddy

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238 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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So does anyone have a feeling for how close the capsule will be to the ISS tonight?

p1stonhead

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168 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Beati Dogu said:
The ISS orbits about 250 miles above the earth, but Dragon is released by the second stage at around 130 miles up.

Then they slowly do a series of separate burns for height-adjustment (HA) and co-elliptic orbit (CE) over a couple of days to step it up close to ISS.

They're really paranoid about spacecraft approaching the ISS and they bring them in really slow. It takes about 40 minutes to go from 250 meters out to 30 meters. At that point they run a system check to make sure everything is working OK. After that they'll creep it in again. They don't trust them to dock themselves yet, so they grab them with the Canadarm and pull them in on that.
It's really awesome how these things are done.

Playing Kerbal has given me the absolute very tiniest understanding as to how orbits/intercepts work.

Really fascinating stuff.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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It will probably be at least a few hundred miles behind. However, that can mean it turns up about five minutes after the ISS. They probably aren't yet on the same orbital track.

eharding

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285 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Beati Dogu said:
Here's some nice footage of the Dragon going overhead, taken in Oxfordshire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qw-w31TVAE
That's what I saw last night! Thanks to Eric for his 'Will we see it in the UK?' post just beforehand for getting me to go outside and wait!



Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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ISS due over at 22.37 so the Dragon may be visible sometime after.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Just saw ISS and a fainter spec about 30-60 seconds after. Was that Dragon? Il

Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Saw the ISS but nothing after. However, there's a lot of thin cloud around where I am so it may have obscured the Dragon.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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Too cloudy here. Probably the last chance for me to see either of them for a while...

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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The Dragon is docked to the ISS now. For the second time in its life..

They'll keep it there for around a month.

smack

9,729 posts

192 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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One of my friends, who was on the 787 Dreamliner projected with Boeing, has joined SpaceX to work on their Big fking Rocket, otherwise known as their Mars project. I'm interested to hear what she thinks of the company when I go over to visit later in the year.

RobDickinson

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255 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Lots of rumours they are tough on their staff but thats probably par for the course not sure if it will be much different from boeing.

BFR/MCT would be an amazing project to work on

RobDickinson

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255 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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next flight is June 15th, BulgariaSat 1 from 39a again, another 'flight tested' booster.

p1stonhead

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168 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Lots of rumours they are tough on their staff but thats probably par for the course not sure if it will be much different from boeing.

BFR/MCT would be an amazing project to work on
yes Probably worth a grind to work on something so incredible but stories abound of employees having to commit to pretty much only their jobs and not lasting very long. Proper tough stuff apparently. I read somewhere that Musk sleeps 4 hours a night - I wouldnt be surprised if he wanted his employees to follow his lead!

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