SpaceX Tuesday...

[p1stonhead]

MartG said:

p1stonhead said:

Can someone explain to me why it appears to be rotating in such a way if in reality its being shot out away from earth?

Does the plinth rotate or something to allow a view like that whilst its travelling away?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 7th February 11:10

The whole thing is rotating - 2nd stage, adaptor, and car - known as a barbecue roll it prevents one side of the vehicle from getting too hot while the other side freezes

Ta muchly

[SystemParanoia]

p1stonhead said:

MartG said:

p1stonhead said:

Can someone explain to me why it appears to be rotating in such a way if in reality its being shot out away from earth?

Does the plinth rotate or something to allow a view like that whilst its travelling away?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 7th February 11:10

The whole thing is rotating - 2nd stage, adaptor, and car - known as a barbecue roll it prevents one side of the vehicle from getting too hot while the other side freezes

Ta muchly

Also that gif is accelerated quite a bit

[MartG]

Toaster said:

Given that NASA has provided Space X with funding $400-$500M

NASA paid them for a service ( ISS resupply ) which they provided - they then used their profit to develop FH, just like any company which sells stuff uses part of the profit to develop new products.

And this is why you don't put an expensive payload aboard the first flight of a new vehicle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_yguLapgA

[Eric Mc]

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

[Toaster]

MartG said:

NASA paid them for a service ( ISS resupply ) which they provided - they then used their profit to develop FH, just like any company which sells stuff uses part of the profit to develop new products.

And this is why you don't put an expensive payload aboard the first flight of a new vehicle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_yguLapgA

I never said an expensive payload I am sure that there are many others out there that are happy with commercial risk

[loudlashadjuster]

Janluke said:

The Tesla floating in the background really needs to be an "Easter egg" in the next Star Wars film

Star Wars said:

[SystemParanoia]

Toaster said:

I never said an expensive payload I am sure that there are many others out there that are happy with commercial risk

No,

no there wasn't. or they would have put their money down years/months ago

[mattyn1]

FurtiveFreddy said:

p1stonhead said:

Can someone explain to me why it appears to be rotating in such a way if in reality its being shot out away from earth?

Does the plinth rotate or something to allow a view like that whilst its travelling away?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 7th February 11:10

The whole stage is spinning while travelling away from us.

i thought oversteer!

[MartG]

I've read that the 2nd burn was deliberately timed to be visible from California, so SpaceX employees in Hawthorn could see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz0Asmdo4hA

[RDMcG]

Eric Mc said:

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

Agree 100%. Knowledge evolves constantly and we need pioneers. History will deal kindly with Musk long after he is gone.

[romac]

Eric Mc said:

hyphen said:

Has tweeted his congratulations, musk replied.

Good to hear.

Yeah, took his mind off the NHS for a while.

Edited by romac on Wednesday 7th February 11:57

[romac]

mattyn1 said:

FurtiveFreddy said:

p1stonhead said:

Can someone explain to me why it appears to be rotating in such a way if in reality its being shot out away from earth?

Does the plinth rotate or something to allow a view like that whilst its travelling away?

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 7th February 11:10

The whole stage is spinning while travelling away from us.

i thought oversteer!

Takes drifting to a whole new level!

[qube_TA]

SystemParanoia said:

If not careful ?

what are you on about they've already done it.. being careful now changes nothing ?

Think about it... they tested their space suit in the van Allen heavy radiation zone for several hours and again out in deep space in the ultimate endurance test.

More than NASA ever did with their own

There's also an Ark of all human knowledge in the boot, and hitch hikers guide to the galaxy in the glove box... with a towel


the alternative to using the car and it being an event that engages people young and old all over the world firing off their imaginations and inspiring a new generation of STEM and science majors..

is this



a 2 Tonne cube of steel Ballast ... exciting

Edited by SystemParanoia on Wednesday 7th February 09:35

They could have sent an inanimate carbon rod!

[Toaster]

Eric Mc said:

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

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"People like him" Who exactly do you think you are, and what makes you think and feel you can make such a nasty comment......Those who have opposite views to you are not dirt on your shoes, it is OK to think this is just more junk humans have placed in space.

I am also proud to think differently to you Eric and not be suckered in by hype and hysteria it was a triumphant launch but why the space junk.

[SystemParanoia]

Toaster said:

Eric Mc said:

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

.

"People like him" Who exactly do you think you are, and what makes you think and feel you can make such a nasty comment......Those who have opposite views to you are not dirt on your shoes, it is OK to think this is just more junk humans have placed in space.

I am also proud to think differently to you Eric and not be suckered in by hype and hysteria it was a triumphant launch but why the space junk.

Can you comprehend just how mind mindbogglingly big space actually is ?

if you converted the mass of earth into individual grains of sand and spread it all over the solar system... it would not be noticeable, and at the same time no grain would come into contact with another for millenia... or more!

[CraigyMc]

Toaster said:

Eric Mc said:

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

.

"People like him" Who exactly do you think you are, and what makes you think and feel you can make such a nasty comment......Those who have opposite views to you are not dirt on your shoes, it is OK to think this is just more junk humans have placed in space.

I am also proud to think differently to you Eric and not be suckered in by hype and hysteria it was a triumphant launch but why the space junk.

I completely agree on this point.

With Eric.

Shove off Toaster.

[sumpoil]

Hats off to SpaceX. Fantastic. Don't understand people knocking the achievement - scientific progress has always been in part 'standing on the shoulders of giants' has it not?

How cool was it when the boosters landed!?! ..... that was absolutely fantastic! Just mind blowing stuff really, SO impressive

Another bonus was how unbelievable the coverage was ..... except for the nerd doing the nasal commentary over the actual flight pictures - I can bet the word 'nominal' has never before been intended to make anything sound really, really exciting! (".... and the boosters are .... NOMINAL!!") I remember watching the back end of the Apollo programme and live pictures were definitely 'of their time'! Even moving on to the first flight of the Space Shuttle things weren't that different, but new technology has definitely brought the experience into much more vivid focus - literally and metaphorically.

One thing I will say though - and I'm not having a go or denigrating the achievement in any way - I remember watching (just) the first flight of the space shuttle (Michael Rodd (cue schoolboy giggling ) presented it IIRC) and I felt palpably more excitement and tension on the build up to the launch because you knew there were actual human beings putting it all on the line. I'm not saying they should have stuck someone on FH just to make it more exciting, by the way, but achievement by a human being will always be more impressive and awe inspiring than achievement by an autonomous machine (F1 take note) ..... just sayin', not complainin'

[welshjon81]

Toaster said:

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why the space junk.

Dude, that's like dropping an iron filing onto a football pitch and worrying about the mess you've caused...

Some people....

[p1stonhead]

CraigyMc said:

Toaster said:

Eric Mc said:

I essentially ignore Toaster on here as he is, to put it mildly, a negatively minded, cantankerous old moaning Minnie.

I've had enough of people like him to be honest.

Let him denigrate all he likes. This is a marvellous event and there will be more to come from SpaceX and the Falcon Heavy - of that I am sure.

.

"People like him" Who exactly do you think you are, and what makes you think and feel you can make such a nasty comment......Those who have opposite views to you are not dirt on your shoes, it is OK to think this is just more junk humans have placed in space.

I am also proud to think differently to you Eric and not be suckered in by hype and hysteria it was a triumphant launch but why the space junk.

I completely agree on this point.

With Eric.

Shove off Toaster.

+1

‘Space junk’

Jesus wept

[Gargamel]

Toaster said:

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and not be suckered in by hype and hysteria it was a triumphant launch but why the space junk.

Well Space X aren't NASA, they have a product to sell, and its their dime to have some fun with. I honestly can't see the issue you are repeatedly driving at.

Others have pointed to the complete loss of expensive "science" on untested platforms, yet you persist. I know you think Falcon is "just miniaturized components and using old proven tech" Let's face it - if it had some serious science onboard and had blown to pieces on launch you would have been FIRST in the queue to criticise Elon for not testing adequately.

Personally I am very happy to see the nodding references to Sci Fi, and a light-hearted touch to this test.

The twin booster landing was just incredible - goes a bit further in development than just recycling someone else's ideas as you claim.