SpaceX Tuesday...

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Kccv23highliftcam

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Thursday 15th February 2018
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Solocle

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Thursday 15th February 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
Wow, that is some serious engineering.
Of course, you could always try building a BFR in https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en. Although, knowing KSP SpaceX fans, it's already been done.

p1stonhead

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168 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Solocle said:
Kccv23highliftcam said:
Wow, that is some serious engineering.
Of course, you could always try building a BFR in https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en. Although, knowing KSP SpaceX fans, it's already been done.
And you will be depressed at how bad you are at even getting off the ground properly frown

p1stonhead

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168 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Solocle said:
Kccv23highliftcam said:
Wow, that is some serious engineering.
Of course, you could always try building a BFR in https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/en. Although, knowing KSP SpaceX fans, it's already been done.
And you will be depressed at how bad you are at even getting off the ground properly in KSP frown

Caruso

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257 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
The fun's in the landing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1uXWZL6Os

CrutyRammers

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199 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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p1stonhead said:
And you will be depressed at how bad you are at even getting off the ground properly in KSP frown
Yeah, but the explosions!

RobDickinson

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255 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I suck at ksp really don't get it probably missing a heap after about a day screwing around.

MartG

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205 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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In an interview with CNN, Branson has admitted to being jealous of Musk's launch

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/technology/richard...

Virgin Galactic was founded in 2004 and has yet to fly a single operational suborbital mission.

SpaceX was founded 2 years earlier, but flew its first successful launch, orbit, and recovery of a spacecraft in 2010.

Branson would need to do a lot to even get close to catching up - and I don't think he will, as I feel that to him Virgin Galactic is primarily a publicity vehicle for his Virgin Group business.

RobDickinson

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255 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Some spacex wifi sat info...

Number of satellites: 4,425 (Expansion to 12,000?)
Est. Annual Revenue: $6.3Bn ($1.4 M/sat/yr)
Satellite lifetime: 5-7 years
Replenishment per year: 700-900 satellites
Sat dimensions: Approx 1.8 x 1.2 x 4.0 m
Orbit: 1,100 - 1,325 km

The primary structure for the Microsat-2a and -2b test spacecraft will be a box design measuring 1.1m x 0.7m x 0.7m and carries the spacecraft flight computer, power system components, attitude determination and control components, propulsion components, GPS receiver, and broadband, telemetry, and command receivers and transmitters. The primary bus is mounted on the payload truss system, which also carries communications panels, inter-satellite optical link transmitters and receivers, star trackers, and a telemetry antenna. There are two 2x8 meter solar panels. Each demonstration spacecraft has a total mass of approximately 400kg.


1,770,000 kgs of sats!

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Insane .. where does all this money come from... so so much!

RobDickinson

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255 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Well I guess they can launch on FH reusable mode 64000kg to leo so thats ~160 a launch , launches will cost spacex a lot less than 90 million, say 30 FH launches...

Gargamel

15,018 posts

262 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Some spacex wifi sat info...

Number of satellites: 4,425 (Expansion to 12,000?)
Est. Annual Revenue: $6.3Bn ($1.4 M/sat/yr)
Satellite lifetime: 5-7 years
Replenishment per year: 700-900 satellites
Sat dimensions: Approx 1.8 x 1.2 x 4.0 m
Orbit: 1,100 - 1,325 km

The primary structure for the Microsat-2a and -2b test spacecraft will be a box design measuring 1.1m x 0.7m x 0.7m and carries the spacecraft flight computer, power system components, attitude determination and control components, propulsion components, GPS receiver, and broadband, telemetry, and command receivers and transmitters. The primary bus is mounted on the payload truss system, which also carries communications panels, inter-satellite optical link transmitters and receivers, star trackers, and a telemetry antenna. There are two 2x8 meter solar panels. Each demonstration spacecraft has a total mass of approximately 400kg.


1,770,000 kgs of sats!
I was watching a program last night about Porthcurno and the first undersea cables laid to connect London to Bombay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porthcurno

That kind of infrastructure that Space X are putting up is as amazing as those first cables in 1870.





annodomini2

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252 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Well I guess they can launch on FH reusable mode 64000kg to leo so thats ~160 a launch , launches will cost spacex a lot less than 90 million, say 30 FH launches...
64,000kg is expendable mode, they haven't currently specified the reusable payload.

SystemParanoia

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199 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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annodomini2 said:
RobDickinson said:
Well I guess they can launch on FH reusable mode 64000kg to leo so thats ~160 a launch , launches will cost spacex a lot less than 90 million, say 30 FH launches...
64,000kg is expendable mode, they haven't currently specified the reusable payload.
Sensible money would put it in the range of where a F9 would have to be used in expendable mode.



Beati Dogu

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140 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Gargamel said:
I was watching a program last night about Porthcurno and the first undersea cables laid to connect London to Bombay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porthcurno

That kind of infrastructure that Space X are putting up is as amazing as those first cables in 1870.
I visited Porthcurno last year and went to the telegraph museum there. Quite impressive and important enough that in WW2, a large bunker was built into the granite hill to protect the vital international communications.

MartG

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205 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Beati Dogu said:
Gargamel said:
I was watching a program last night about Porthcurno and the first undersea cables laid to connect London to Bombay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porthcurno

That kind of infrastructure that Space X are putting up is as amazing as those first cables in 1870.
I visited Porthcurno last year and went to the telegraph museum there. Quite impressive and important enough that in WW2, a large bunker was built into the granite hill to protect the vital international communications.
Yes, a very interesting place to visit



RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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SystemParanoia said:
Sensible money would put it in the range of where a F9 would have to be used in expendable mode.i
I'm not sure they could fit more than about 20 in the fairing anyhow

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Without wanting to keep veering off topic further, fans of Porthcurno cable station etc should watch these.
The first showing all the other interesting stuff around the area relating to undersea cables and various other comminication infrastructure. There is a lot more than you think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_nnUbX7uuQ

Excellent documentry about the first trans-Atlantic cables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZLY6KjVwQg

There are some other interesting films around on Porthcurno in the war too, but I can't find them at the moment.
It was one of the heviest defended places in the UK during the WW2

grantone

640 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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RobDickinson said:
Some spacex wifi sat info...

Number of satellites: 4,425 (Expansion to 12,000?)
Est. Annual Revenue: $6.3Bn ($1.4 M/sat/yr)
Satellite lifetime: 5-7 years
Replenishment per year: 700-900 satellites
Sat dimensions: Approx 1.8 x 1.2 x 4.0 m
Orbit: 1,100 - 1,325 km

The primary structure for the Microsat-2a and -2b test spacecraft will be a box design measuring 1.1m x 0.7m x 0.7m and carries the spacecraft flight computer, power system components, attitude determination and control components, propulsion components, GPS receiver, and broadband, telemetry, and command receivers and transmitters. The primary bus is mounted on the payload truss system, which also carries communications panels, inter-satellite optical link transmitters and receivers, star trackers, and a telemetry antenna. There are two 2x8 meter solar panels. Each demonstration spacecraft has a total mass of approximately 400kg.


1,770,000 kgs of sats!
Are there details of what kind of receiver/transmitter and modem is needed to work with this system? I guess you no longer need a dish pointed at a specific satellite, but is it small enough to be integrated into devices or a small peripheral?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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They are talking laptop sized receiver for now
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