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MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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This morning's SpaceX launch - skip to 13:40 for liftoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apw3xqwsG1U

Beati Dogu

8,894 posts

139 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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I didn't watch it live as it was too early, but glad it all worked OK.

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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I'm probably wrong but aren't those various structures a tad close to the launch pad?

Jeez but that's a big bird!

Edited by Kccv23highliftcam on Monday 10th September 23:09

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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What structures are you referring to?

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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ones from last nights launch footage Eric

Beati Dogu

8,894 posts

139 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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It's a calculated risk I guess. The more substantial pad equipment, like the O2 & fuel tanks are protected behind blast walls and earth berms.

However this pad (SLC-40) was the one wrecked back in 2016 when a Falcon 9 exploded during a test fire. I was closed for 15 months as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ

Damage was caused to the concrete of the pad itself as well as electrical, communications and fuel lines. Some of the support sheds were damaged or destroyed by the blasts & fires. The lightning towers & the assembly building down the ramp were only lightly damaged. The transporter erector tower was a twisted mess.

They could have reduced the repair time, but they chose to use the construction crews on putting nearby Pad 39a into operation early while the investigation went on. Once that was up and running they concentrated on rebuilding & upgrading SLC-40's ground support equipment.

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
ones from last nights launch footage Eric
I'm still not sure which items you refer to. Launch pads often have large and heavy items right next door to the rocket. The most obvious is the launch tower which provides access to the rocket during launch preparations and of course, carries propellant lines and electrical and data connections right up until the last few moments prior to launch. Some of these connections are only broken at the moment of lift off.

On Pad 40 (used the other night) as well as the launch support structures, there are also four large towers which carry lightning conductors. If you look carefully, you will see that they are connected by wires. This form a kind of Faraday Cage around the rocket when it's on the pad and should stop it from being struck by lightning whilst it's sitting there.

Here's a picture of Pad 40 showing the general layout -



As far as large structures next to launching rockets, you can't get much bigger than this -





MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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BFR hop tests expected late next year

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-gwynne-shotwell-b...

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Eric Mc said:
I'm still not sure which items you refer to.

Beati Dogu

8,894 posts

139 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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There's a lot of camera foreshortening here.

It's over 500 feet between the rocket and the assembly building down the ramp behind it. That's more than twice the height of the rocket (230 ft)

The building to the right is actually 250 ft away.

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Beati Dogu said:
There's a lot of camera foreshortening here.

It's over 500 feet between the rocket and the assembly building down the ramp behind it. That's more than twice the height of the rocket (230 ft)

The building to the right is actually 250 ft away.
"exactly" how much fuel and oxidiser are sitting on top of each other there?

Beati Dogu

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139 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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There's about 341 tonnes of liquid oxygen and 147 tonnes of Kerosene. Plus whatever propellant the satellite has.


BTW The first stage of this rocket arrived safely in Port Canaveral earlier today

Edited by Beati Dogu on Wednesday 12th September 20:30

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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So they have someone signed up for a moon loop trip on bfr. A new render of the spaceship and a press conference in 3 days.

Any one on here going on a fun holiday?

Flooble

5,565 posts

100 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Haven't we been here before with Falcon Heavy?

Then they decided not to certify FH for human flight, so is this moon trip likely to just be the bumping of the first one from FH to BFR?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Probably one of the same people I guess

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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I also expect that doing it on BFR will be a much more comfortable, spacious and enjoyable experience, with room for experienced people to join the flight too if something were to go wrong and require on site engineering/flying intervention.

Beati Dogu

8,894 posts

139 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Looks a bit goofy:



Seems to have sprouted 3 tail fins big enough to double as landing struts.


https://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/bfr1_moo...

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Beati Dogu said:
Looks a bit goofy:



Seems to have sprouted 3 tail fins big enough to double as landing struts.
NO WAY....

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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It does have a "B Science Fiction Movie" look to it.

I'm wonder how the whole edifice survives re-entry.

MartG

20,683 posts

204 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Yes - looks very like...


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