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Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I don't think it will fly from Florida for a while. Where from there is also another question.

Pad 39a is vital to them for Crew Dragon and military contract flights. Some of these will require the mobile service tower they'll build at this pad.

I don't think Pad 40 is capable of handling Falcon Heavy as it is, let alone Starship.

If they ask NASA nicely, they could maybe borrow Pad 39b, which is a clean pad these days. They might as well borrow part of the Vertical Assembly Building and build their own mobile launch tower while they're at it.

Other than that, they'll probably have to upgrade Pad 40, build a new pad down missile row like Blue Origin, or switch completely to sea launches somehow.

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Here's another fairing comparison from the same guy, Ken Kirtland:



Now with the various expected or actual lift capacities of their respective rockets. (In humpback whales, Kg and bananas)

"The blue columns in the center of each fairing show a standardized comparison of payload capacity for each rocket. It shows how much water they can take to LEO, GEO, and TLI. Every single rocket is shown carrying a 3 meter cylinder of water."

Vulcan, like Atlas V, can have solid rocket motors attached as necessary. Between 0 and 6 of them to take it up to the Vulcan Centaur Heavy configuration. Here's one being test fired the other day.

https://youtu.be/HXHMfMju77g

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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MartG said:
Interesting comparison

Musk replied to that Tweet:
"Starship fairing will actually have more height than shown here. Dome will be flatter & more of tip is accessible. Usable volume ~1000 cubic meters."

MartG

20,706 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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NASA has set Oct 23 as the target date for the next manned Dragon flight to the ISS

https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/08/14/nasa-sets-oc...

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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So there should be two Dragon capsules attached to the ISS in November, once the first cargo Dragon 2 arrives.

Potentially having 14 people up there in April sounds a bit nuts. They’ll be bumping into each other all the time.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
So there should be two Dragon capsules attached to the ISS in November, once the first cargo Dragon 2 arrives.

Potentially having 14 people up there in April sounds a bit nuts. They’ll be bumping into each other all the time.
14 in about the same volume as a 747? They'll be fine. Might be queues for the heads though.

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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They've briefly had 13 on the ISS a couple of times before, in the Shuttle era.

In 2009 with Shuttle Endeavour (STS-127) and her crew of 7 for an eleven day stay.



(Back row on the left is Chris Cassidy, who is on the ISS again currently and next to him is Doug Hurley)


Also Shuttle Discovery (STS-131) and her crew of 7 paid a ten day visit in 2010 :




There are only 6 sleep stations on the ISS for crew to call their own (4 on the US module & 2 on the Russian). As demonstrated by astronaut Suni Williams here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukws3oLMDc8

So it's either navy-style hot bunking, or strapping your sleeping bag to a wall. The Shuttle crews could make use of the orbiter of course and the Dragon capsules may have to serve as temporary bedrooms too.

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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SpaceX is building 120 Starlink satellites per month now it seems.

Beta testers report download speeds between 11Mbps to 60Mbps, with latency between 31ms to 94ms

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/202...


They've another Starlink launch due off on Tuesday 18th Aug - Starlink-10

Launch time is 3.31 pm UK time (10:31 am EDT) from SLC-40 in Florida.

This will carry 58 Starlinks plus 3 rideshare satellites: SkySats 19-21

It will be this booster's 6th flight, which will be a record for Falcon 9. This particular one, B1049, has done 3 previous Starlink missions before.



MartG

20,706 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Do NOT show this to Elon !


Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Jesus. What a beast that would be. Starship Heavy.

Elon is now the world's 4th richest man apparently. Behind Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Mark Cuckerberg.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-17...

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
They've another Starlink launch due off on Tuesday 18th Aug - Starlink-10

Launch time is 3.31 pm UK time (10:31 am EDT) from SLC-40 in Florida.

This will carry 58 Starlinks plus 3 rideshare satellites: SkySats 19-21

It will be this booster's 6th flight, which will be a record for Falcon 9. This particular one, B1049, has done 3 previous Starlink missions before.
All's well that ends well.

The booster took off & landed for a 6th time.

All satellites deployed and they even managed to capture a fairing in mid air. Sounds like the other one is OK too. smile

Flooble

5,565 posts

101 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Doesn't even make the news now.

It is starting to feel a little like the start of Encounter at Tiber

London424

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176 months

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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^ Impressive feat. Love the cheesy music too.


"Raptor engine just reached 330 bar chamber pressure without exploding!" - Elon

That's 4,786 psi.

Also ~225 tons of thrust, which is just shy of an SLS / Space Shuttle RS-25 main engine. Doesn't sound that impressive put like that, but the Raptor is smaller, lighter and much, much cheaper to make. Definitely not the sort of thing you trundle down a highway on a trailer.

The fact it can do that shows that production Raptors will hopefully run reliably at 300 bar.

They're about to test Raptor serial number 40, which already has several upgrades over 330 bar engine, according to Elon.

As for Raptor's ability to throttle, compared to Merlin:

"Max demonstrated Raptor thrust is ~225 tons & min is ~90 tons, so they’re actually quite similar. Both Merlin & Raptor could throttle way lower with added design complexity. Raptor preburner & Merlin gas generator flameout are what limit lower bound." - Elon



Meanwhile Starship SN6 seems to have passed its pressure testing OK and is being prepared to have Raptor serial number 29 fitted soon. The process of static firing & flight will begin next week according to road closure notifications.



- Austin Barnard


PRTVR

7,134 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Flooble said:
Doesn't even make the news now.

It is starting to feel a little like the start of Encounter at Tiber
hehe It does doesn't it,
I have respect for all that NASA has achieved but we now appear to be moving up to the next level,
Small thing like the stencil number on the side of the engines to keep track of them , they are just a product now.
A fascinating time for anyone interested in space exploration.

Leithen

10,995 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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PRTVR said:
Flooble said:
Doesn't even make the news now.

It is starting to feel a little like the start of Encounter at Tiber
hehe It does doesn't it,
I have respect for all that NASA has achieved but we now appear to be moving up to the next level,
Small thing like the stencil number on the side of the engines to keep track of them , they are just a product now.
A fascinating time for anyone interested in space exploration.
You'll be able to pick them up at Launchtrader soon.

FSH, 20 launches, 2000 miles, 3 hrs, ONO. hehe

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
Love this pic, looks like something out of Starwars or something.

RizzoTheRat

25,220 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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London424 said:
Are the parachutes they use for the faring steerable or do they just open them high enough up that ship has time to chase them?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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RizzoTheRat said:
Are the parachutes they use for the faring steerable or do they just open them high enough up that ship has time to chase them?
They are steerable.

Its a 3 object closed loop control system ship/fairing/chute

Beati Dogu

8,910 posts

140 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Leithen said:
You'll be able to pick them up at Launchtrader soon.

FSH, 20 launches, 2000 miles, 3 hrs, ONO. hehe
No landing leg kickers. I know what I have. wink
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