Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)

Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)

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Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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mko9 said:
Yes, how many UK coastal villages have been lost to rising seas over the last couple thousand years?
Doggerland only sunk around 6500 BC. We had to build a tunnel to get cheap booze.....

Kawasicki

13,084 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Jinx said:
mko9 said:
Yes, how many UK coastal villages have been lost to rising seas over the last couple thousand years?
Doggerland only sunk around 6500 BC. We had to build a tunnel to get cheap booze.....
Huge see level rises..over 120m...massive tidal waves....yet humans thrived. Current sea level rise rate is proper boring!

mko9

2,365 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Kawasicki said:
Jinx said:
mko9 said:
Yes, how many UK coastal villages have been lost to rising seas over the last couple thousand years?
Doggerland only sunk around 6500 BC. We had to build a tunnel to get cheap booze.....
Huge see level rises..over 120m...massive tidal waves....yet humans thrived. Current sea level rise rate is proper boring!
Seriously though. I saw an article recently about ZOMG! Florida! Rising sea levels! Miami!! Florida is VERY flat. It is a bit bigger than England and the highest point is only 345ft MSL. It has been a little over 500 years since Ponce de Leon "discovered" Florida. Even at only 1-2mm per year, that is still 500-1000mm (.5-1m) of sea level rise. Show me where Florida's coast line has changed. Over long periods of time, sea level rise doesn't seem to have any impact.

PRTVR

7,105 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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On the subject of sea level rise .
https://youtu.be/uBPXjQRJA90

All that's needed is adjusting to the data. hehe

I do love this site,

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

It saves them taxing their brains, all the answers are provided without having to think. wink

durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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PRTVR said:
I do love this site,

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

It saves them taxing their brains, all the answers are provided without having to think. wink
It always makes me laugh when somebody who rejects the science complains about sites like skeptical science.

If you don't like skeptical science, you can simply get your information from the source of any of the data involved, any group researching climate change, or any general science magazines and websites.

Or basically any source that has credible scientific credentials because not a single one of them rejects the science of climate change.

The only people relying exclusively on a tiny collection of fringe advocacy blogs are those who reject the science, like yourself.

PRTVR

7,105 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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durbster said:
PRTVR said:
I do love this site,

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

It saves them taxing their brains, all the answers are provided without having to think. wink
It always makes me laugh when somebody who rejects the science complains about sites like skeptical science.

If you don't like skeptical science, you can simply get your information from the source of any of the data involved, any group researching climate change, or any general science magazines and websites.

Or basically any source that has credible scientific credentials because not a single one of them rejects the science of climate change.

The only people relying exclusively on a tiny collection of fringe advocacy blogs are those who reject the science, like yourself.
So why the need to provide answers to the faithful ?
Anyway what's your thoughts on the YouTube link where sea level rise manipulation is discussed.

Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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durbster said:
It always makes me laugh when somebody who rejects the science complains about sites like skeptical science.

If you don't like skeptical science, you can simply get your information from the source of any of the data involved, any group researching climate change, or any general science magazines and websites.

Or basically any source that has credible scientific credentials because not a single one of them rejects the science of climate change.

The only people relying exclusively on a tiny collection of fringe advocacy blogs are those who reject the science, like yourself.
And yet you take a cartoonist's website over a meteorologist's website? Go figure.

durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Jinx said:
durbster said:
It always makes me laugh when somebody who rejects the science complains about sites like skeptical science.

If you don't like skeptical science, you can simply get your information from the source of any of the data involved, any group researching climate change, or any general science magazines and websites.

Or basically any source that has credible scientific credentials because not a single one of them rejects the science of climate change.

The only people relying exclusively on a tiny collection of fringe advocacy blogs are those who reject the science, like yourself.
And yet you take a cartoonist's website over a meteorologist's website? Go figure.
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're on about here, but it looks like you've missed the point.

Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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durbster said:
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're on about here, but it looks like you've missed the point.
Durbs you really need to check the sources of your advocacy blogs.....

robinessex

11,059 posts

181 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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durbster said:
Jinx said:
durbster said:
It always makes me laugh when somebody who rejects the science complains about sites like skeptical science.

If you don't like skeptical science, you can simply get your information from the source of any of the data involved, any group researching climate change, or any general science magazines and websites.

Or basically any source that has credible scientific credentials because not a single one of them rejects the science of climate change.

The only people relying exclusively on a tiny collection of fringe advocacy blogs are those who reject the science, like yourself.
And yet you take a cartoonist's website over a meteorologist's website? Go figure.
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're on about here, but it looks like you've missed the point.
Unlike you, who activley ignores them.

durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Jinx said:
Durbs you really need to check the sources of your advocacy blogs.....
I don't cite advocacy blogs because I don't need to, as explained in the post you replied to.

Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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durbster said:
I don't cite advocacy blogs because I don't need to, as explained in the post you replied to.
Skeptical Science is an advocacy blog created by John Cook (a cartoonist with a predilection for dressing in SS gear) (published papers available but maybe not for long )
WUWT (The worlds most viewed site on global warming) was created by Anthony Watts a TV meteorologist - ( published papers available).

durbster

10,270 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Jinx said:
durbster said:
I don't cite advocacy blogs because I don't need to, as explained in the post you replied to.
Skeptical Science is an advocacy blog created by John Cook (a cartoonist with a predilection for dressing in SS gear) (published papers available but maybe not for long )
WUWT (The worlds most viewed site on global warming) was created by Anthony Watts a TV meteorologist - ( published papers available).
Right. And why are you telling me this?

mko9

2,365 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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durbster said:
Jinx said:
durbster said:
I don't cite advocacy blogs because I don't need to, as explained in the post you replied to.
Skeptical Science is an advocacy blog created by John Cook (a cartoonist with a predilection for dressing in SS gear) (published papers available but maybe not for long )
WUWT (The worlds most viewed site on global warming) was created by Anthony Watts a TV meteorologist - ( published papers available).
Right. And why are you telling me this?
Reference this post:

robinessex said:
Unlike you, who activley ignores them.

LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

75 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Jinx said:
Skeptical Science is an advocacy blog created by John Cook (a cartoonist with a predilection for dressing in SS gear) (published papers available but maybe not for long )
WUWT (The worlds most viewed site on global warming) was created by Anthony Watts a TV meteorologist - ( published papers available).
I see the same st is being posted over here too rolleyes

Anthony Watts is no more a meteorologist than I am a Cabinet Maker, he has no Meteorological qualifications whatsoever. He never even graduated. He's a self-proclaimed Meteorologist who presented a TV show.

Whereas John Cook:

"Skeptical Science was created and maintained by John Cook, a research assistant professor at the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University. John co-authored the college textbooks Climate Change: Examining the Facts with Weber State University professor Daniel Bedford. He was also a coauthor of the textbook Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis and the book Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand.

In 2013, he lead-authored an award-winning paper analyzing the scientific consensus on climate change that has been highlighted by President Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron. In 2015, he developed a Massive Open Online Course on climate science denial with the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland (see a full list of his scholarly publications here https://skepticalscience.com/posts.php?u=1).

There is no funding to maintain Skeptical Science other than Paypal donations - it's run at personal expense. John Cook has no affiliations with any political organisations or groups. Skeptical Science is strictly a labour of love. The design was created by John's talented web designer wife."

But that you could say the same about WUWT.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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LoonyTunes said:
Jinx said:
Skeptical Science is an advocacy blog created by John Cook (a cartoonist with a predilection for dressing in SS gear) (published papers available but maybe not for long )
WUWT (The worlds most viewed site on global warming) was created by Anthony Watts a TV meteorologist - ( published papers available).
I see the same st is being posted over here too rolleyes

Anthony Watts is no more a meteorologist than I am a Cabinet Maker, he has no Meteorological qualifications whatsoever. He never even graduated. He's a self-proclaimed Meteorologist who presented a TV show.

Whereas John Cook:

"Skeptical Science was created and maintained by John Cook, a research assistant professor at the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University. John co-authored the college textbooks Climate Change: Examining the Facts with Weber State University professor Daniel Bedford. He was also a coauthor of the textbook Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis and the book Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand.

In 2013, he lead-authored an award-winning paper analyzing the scientific consensus on climate change that has been highlighted by President Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron. In 2015, he developed a Massive Open Online Course on climate science denial with the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland (see a full list of his scholarly publications here https://skepticalscience.com/posts.php?u=1).

There is no funding to maintain Skeptical Science other than Paypal donations - it's run at personal expense. John Cook has no affiliations with any political organisations or groups. Skeptical Science is strictly a labour of love. The design was created by John's talented web designer wife."

But that you could say the same about WUWT.
WOW! what a defensive response. The troll doth protest too much. How DARE you impune the name of our high priest !

The first holy rule of Co2 is thou shalt not take the lord god C02 and his priests name in vain.

Here is an alternative translation.

James Cook, The Lord high internet priest of Co2, he of many and various theological climate truth degrees, has authored many papers showing the one true C02 light, providing and ensuring the true theology to convert evil heretics to true faith. Peace be upon C02.

Though shall not take the high priest name in vain....... Hellujah.

LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

75 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Same st, different thread.

Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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LoonyTunes said:
I see the same st is being posted over here too rolleyes

Anthony Watts is no more a meteorologist than I am a Cabinet Maker, he has no Meteorological qualifications whatsoever. He never even graduated. He's a self-proclaimed Meteorologist who presented a TV show.

Whereas John Cook:

"Skeptical Science was created and maintained by John Cook, a research assistant professor at the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University. John co-authored the college textbooks Climate Change: Examining the Facts with Weber State University professor Daniel Bedford. He was also a coauthor of the textbook Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis and the book Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand.

In 2013, he lead-authored an award-winning paper analyzing the scientific consensus on climate change that has been highlighted by President Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron. In 2015, he developed a Massive Open Online Course on climate science denial with the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland (see a full list of his scholarly publications here https://skepticalscience.com/posts.php?u=1).

There is no funding to maintain Skeptical Science other than Paypal donations - it's run at personal expense. John Cook has no affiliations with any political organisations or groups. Skeptical Science is strictly a labour of love. The design was created by John's talented web designer wife."

But that you could say the same about WUWT.
John Cook as he appeared on SKS (Skeptical Science) forum:



Story here


Anthony Watts was a professional meteorologist (WLFI-TV in Lafayette, Indiana) - got paid for it ergo he is a meteorologist. Co-Authored useful papers that had led to improved weather monitoring.

Cook has co-authored fluff pieces written to push the CAGW meme that do not measure up to proper standards (previous link I have provided) .



LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

75 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Jinx said:
Anthony Watts was a professional meteorologist (WLFI-TV in Lafayette, Indiana) - got paid for it ergo he is a meteorologist.
I have been paid to build a wardrobe - it doesn't make me a qualified carpenter. rolleyes



DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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It also doesn't mean that you did an inferior job or couldn't point out the mistakes/bodges by a 'qualified carpenter'.

You do not have to have a specialisation in a particular field to point out poor science when you see it..