Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)
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Looks like reflecting sunlight to cool the planet won't work as you might have anticipated
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
Whilst the ocean uptake of co2 could drop as emissions drop
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
It seems like we may be getting a little hemmed in.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
Whilst the ocean uptake of co2 could drop as emissions drop
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
It seems like we may be getting a little hemmed in.
Gadgetmac said:
Looks like reflecting sunlight to cool the planet won't work as you might have anticipated
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
Whilst the ocean uptake of co2 could drop as emissions drop
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
It seems like we may be getting a little hemmed in.
At last some Science..... apart from why you felt the need for the the kicker at the end? Who's getting "hemmed in"? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
Whilst the ocean uptake of co2 could drop as emissions drop
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/2006...
It seems like we may be getting a little hemmed in.
Link 1. Totally agree Geoengineering in any form is guesswork and dangerous.
Link 2. Haven't quite got my head around that yet.
dickymint said:
At last some Science..... apart from why you felt the need for the the kicker at the end? Who's getting "hemmed in"?
Link 1. Totally agree Geoengineering in any form is guesswork and dangerous.
Link 2. Haven't quite got my head around that yet.
I only post science on the science thread. Some science from those on the other side would be novel.Link 1. Totally agree Geoengineering in any form is guesswork and dangerous.
Link 2. Haven't quite got my head around that yet.
Hemmed in meaning the number of escape routes/mitigating factors are 2 fewer it would appear.
Gadgetmac said:
dickymint said:
At last some Science..... apart from why you felt the need for the the kicker at the end? Who's getting "hemmed in"?
Link 1. Totally agree Geoengineering in any form is guesswork and dangerous.
Link 2. Haven't quite got my head around that yet.
I only post science on the science thread. Some science from those on the other side would be novel.Link 1. Totally agree Geoengineering in any form is guesswork and dangerous.
Link 2. Haven't quite got my head around that yet.
Hemmed in meaning the number of escape routes/mitigating factors are 2 fewer it would appear.
kerplunk said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Deniers deal in Misinformation and Fake News even actively encouraging the burning of more fossil fuels whilst denigrating renewables..but thats for the other thread.
Every time you use that word I read it as heretic or blasphemer. 
Toltec said:
kerplunk said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Deniers deal in Misinformation and Fake News even actively encouraging the burning of more fossil fuels whilst denigrating renewables..but thats for the other thread.
Every time you use that word I read it as heretic or blasphemer. Atheism? You may as well invoke your non-belief in water dousing. It doesn't infer perfection
dickymint said:
Give it a rest Gadge try reading what you post.
Yet another "no science" post Dicky. A quick flick back over the last 30 pages or so will be enough for anybody to see that I've started the last 4 or 5 conversations on this thread by posting a link to a scientific report.Whilst you've supplied what? Drive-by wumming. If you don't like the science posts I make why bother replying with inane comments all the time?
Toltec said:
kerplunk said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Deniers deal in Misinformation and Fake News even actively encouraging the burning of more fossil fuels whilst denigrating renewables..but thats for the other thread.
Every time you use that word I read it as heretic or blasphemer. 
Excellent post. Gave me an early morning chortle over my toast.
Gadgetmac said:
Toltec said:
kerplunk said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Deniers deal in Misinformation and Fake News even actively encouraging the burning of more fossil fuels whilst denigrating renewables..but thats for the other thread.
Every time you use that word I read it as heretic or blasphemer. Excellent post. Gave me an early morning chortle over my toast.
Your Morning Toast may be Emitting CO2... How's it taste?
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/news/your-morning-toa...
"Recent discoveries from studies in UK farming has found a shocking correlation between farming of wheat for the production of bread and CO2 emission.
"A single loaf of bread produced in the UK contributes as much to global warming as more than half a kilogram (1.1lbs) of carbon dioxide, research has shown.".........continues
More Science for your consumption, snipers and those who think it's all down to contrails won't like it.
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
https://www.carbonbrief.org/jet-stream-is-climate-...
Prof Tim Woollings, associate professor of physical climate science at the University of Oxford, Oxford joint chair of the Met Office Academic Partnership, and author of a book on the jet stream. He tells Carbon Brief:
“Blocking is a stationary and persistent weather pattern, most often an anticyclone [high-pressure system], that blocks the oncoming jet stream and storms.”
With a high-pressure weather system in the way, the oncoming weather is either deflected away or it, too, stays put. This can bring extended periods of consistent weather, says the UK’s Met Office
The link is a good Q&A read.
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
https://www.carbonbrief.org/jet-stream-is-climate-...
Prof Tim Woollings, associate professor of physical climate science at the University of Oxford, Oxford joint chair of the Met Office Academic Partnership, and author of a book on the jet stream. He tells Carbon Brief:
“Blocking is a stationary and persistent weather pattern, most often an anticyclone [high-pressure system], that blocks the oncoming jet stream and storms.”
With a high-pressure weather system in the way, the oncoming weather is either deflected away or it, too, stays put. This can bring extended periods of consistent weather, says the UK’s Met Office
The link is a good Q&A read.
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
PRTVR said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
And please do let me have your list of scientists and scientific institutions I can trust..
Gadgetmac said:
PRTVR said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
And please do let me have your list of scientists and scientific institutions I can trust..
Because the subject is complex is the point that is been made,
remember we are looking for the evidence of change brought about from a small addition to a trace gas in the atmosphere, when the variables ,known and possibly unknown are complex,
note that they are relying upon models for their predictions, this brings us back to GIGO, if the models are running incomplete data, given the complexity of a chaotic system a high probability , the outcome that is necessary for predictions becomes inevitably inaccurate but are still held up as the answer,
PRTVR said:
Gadgetmac said:
PRTVR said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
And please do let me have your list of scientists and scientific institutions I can trust..
Because the subject is complex is the point that is been made,
remember we are looking for the evidence of change brought about from a small addition to a trace gas in the atmosphere, when the variables ,known and possibly unknown are complex,
note that they are relying upon models for their predictions, this brings us back to GIGO, if the models are running incomplete data, given the complexity of a chaotic system a high probability , the outcome that is necessary for predictions becomes inevitably inaccurate but are still held up as the answer,
robinessex said:
PRTVR said:
Gadgetmac said:
PRTVR said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
And please do let me have your list of scientists and scientific institutions I can trust..
Because the subject is complex is the point that is been made,
remember we are looking for the evidence of change brought about from a small addition to a trace gas in the atmosphere, when the variables ,known and possibly unknown are complex,
note that they are relying upon models for their predictions, this brings us back to GIGO, if the models are running incomplete data, given the complexity of a chaotic system a high probability , the outcome that is necessary for predictions becomes inevitably inaccurate but are still held up as the answer,
Gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
PRTVR said:
Gadgetmac said:
PRTVR said:
Toltec said:
Gadgetmac said:
Jet stream: Is climate change causing more ‘blocking’ weather events?
No, but maybe yes in some areas and possibly longer lasting, it's complicated. That was indeed an interesting article and well explained.
Thanks Gadgetmac, I can see why you put your "faith " in scientists like this.
And please do let me have your list of scientists and scientific institutions I can trust..
Because the subject is complex is the point that is been made,
remember we are looking for the evidence of change brought about from a small addition to a trace gas in the atmosphere, when the variables ,known and possibly unknown are complex,
note that they are relying upon models for their predictions, this brings us back to GIGO, if the models are running incomplete data, given the complexity of a chaotic system a high probability , the outcome that is necessary for predictions becomes inevitably inaccurate but are still held up as the answer,
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