Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)

[Gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

It's being reported that the target of keeping the earth's average temperature rise below 1.5°c is possibly going to be breached for at least some months of the year within the next 5 years.

Here's what that extra .5° above they current 1° likely means...

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/why-15-...

Science forum, fairy stories aren't allowed.

As sure as night follows day pour resident climate scientist Rob turns up with another post that adds the sum of fk all to the thread.

Which is twice yours then. Statistically speaking that is of course

Which would be true if my posts weren’t reports from scientists in the field doing the research and publishing their findings whilst your posts are Rob’s comic cuts.

[robinessex]

Gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

It's being reported that the target of keeping the earth's average temperature rise below 1.5°c is possibly going to be breached for at least some months of the year within the next 5 years.

Here's what that extra .5° above they current 1° likely means...

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/why-15-...

Science forum, fairy stories aren't allowed.

As sure as night follows day pour resident climate scientist Rob turns up with another post that adds the sum of fk all to the thread.

You missed out on commonsense and skepticism. Look them up if you don't understand that. Shall we all join in with a chorus of "I'm a believer" now?
Which is twice yours then. Statistically speaking that is of course

Which would be true if my posts weren’t reports from scientists in the field doing the research and publishing their findings whilst your posts are Rob’s comic cuts.

[Gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

It's being reported that the target of keeping the earth's average temperature rise below 1.5°c is possibly going to be breached for at least some months of the year within the next 5 years.

Here's what that extra .5° above they current 1° likely means...

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/why-15-...

Science forum, fairy stories aren't allowed.

As sure as night follows day pour resident climate scientist Rob turns up with another post that adds the sum of fk all to the thread.

You missed out on commonsense and skepticism. Look them up if you don't understand that. Shall we all join in with a chorus of "I'm a believer" now?
Which is twice yours then. Statistically speaking that is of course

Which would be true if my posts weren’t reports from scientists in the field doing the research and publishing their findings whilst your posts are Rob’s comic cuts.

Your “common sense” failed you when it came to understanding a simple graph and the Sun/Earth orbital relationship...yet you think its good enough to topple climate scientists?

Rob, you’ve still not shown any science on this thread to counter any subject brought up, give it a rest until you can eh?

[Lotus 50]

Gadgetmac said:

As sure as night follows day pour resident climate scientist Rob turns up with another post that adds the sum of fk all to the thread.

Indeed. In the meanwhile here's the summary sheet on the science. Still waiting for any form of real evidence that the advice to 'buy Damart and candles' may have been sound... :-)

https://hadleyserver.metoffice.gov.uk/wmolc/WMO_GA...

[Gadgetmac]

Lotus 50 said:

Gadgetmac said:

As sure as night follows day pour resident climate scientist Rob turns up with another post that adds the sum of fk all to the thread.

Indeed. In the meanwhile here's the summary sheet on the science. Still waiting for any form of real evidence that the advice to 'buy Damart and candles' may have been sound... :-)

https://hadleyserver.metoffice.gov.uk/wmolc/WMO_GA...

Good find

I was looking for something like that to read.

[LimSlip]

Gadgetmac said:

It's being reported that the target of keeping the earth's average temperature rise below 1.5°c is possibly going to be breached for at least some months of the year within the next 5 years.

Here's what that extra .5° above they current 1° likely means...

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/why-15-...

At least the temperature rise won't be able to melt any more Arctic ice, since it was reported there would be none left by 2020.

[kerplunk]

LimSlip said:

Gadgetmac said:

It's being reported that the target of keeping the earth's average temperature rise below 1.5°c is possibly going to be breached for at least some months of the year within the next 5 years.

Here's what that extra .5° above they current 1° likely means...

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/why-15-...

At least the temperature rise won't be able to melt any more Arctic ice, since it was reported there would be none left by 2020.

Yeah, like a 'good chunk' of the warming is due to adjustments.

Edited by kerplunk on Friday 10th July 07:20

[LimSlip]

kerplunk said:

Yeah, like a 'good chunk' of the warming is due to adjustments.

Are you suggesting there was no warning reported about arctic ice being gone by 2020?

Edited by LimSlip on Friday 10th July 20:10

[Gadgetmac]

LimSlip said:

kerplunk said:

Yeah, like a 'good chunk' of the warming is due to adjustments.

Are you suggesting there was no warning reported about arctic ice being gone by 2020?

Thats a bit old, 2007. And the IPCC ultimately predicted that the ice would be gone by 2050. Got anything a bit more up to date?

[kerplunk]

LimSlip said:

kerplunk said:

Yeah, like a 'good chunk' of the warming is due to adjustments.

Are you suggesting there was no warning reported about arctic ice being gone by 2020?

Edited by LimSlip on Friday 10th July 20:10

Such reports are about the ice melting completely in summer so they weren't predicting there'll be no ice to melt after 2020 like you claimed. Report says could - you said would. Report says around 2020 - you said by.

If your peeve is scientists being 'alarmist' you should try to avoid being an exaggerator yourself, good-chunk.

[Gadgetmac]

More Science:

Climate change: Siberian heatwave 'clear evidence' of warming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-534...

A record-breaking heatwave in Siberia would have been almost impossible without human-caused climate change, a study has found.

The Russian region's temperatures were more than 5C above average between January and June of this year.

Temperatures exceeded 38C in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk on 20 June, the highest temperature ever recorded north of the Arctic circle.

An international team of climate scientists, led by the UK Met Office, found the record average temperatures were likely to happen less than once every 80,000 years without human-induced climate change.

That makes such an event "almost impossible" had the world not been warmed by greenhouse gas emissions, they conclude in the study.

The scientists described the finding as "unequivocal evidence of the impact of climate change on the planet".

It is, says co-author Prof Peter Stott of the Met Office, the strongest result of any attribution study to date.

[Jinx]

Gadgetmac said:

More Science:

Climate change: Siberian heatwave 'clear evidence' of warming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-534...

A record-breaking heatwave in Siberia would have been almost impossible without human-caused climate change, a study has found.

The Russian region's temperatures were more than 5C above average between January and June of this year.

Temperatures exceeded 38C in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk on 20 June, the highest temperature ever recorded north of the Arctic circle.

An international team of climate scientists, led by the UK Met Office, found the record average temperatures were likely to happen less than once every 80,000 years without human-induced climate change.

That makes such an event "almost impossible" had the world not been warmed by greenhouse gas emissions, they conclude in the study.

The scientists described the finding as "unequivocal evidence of the impact of climate change on the planet".

It is, says co-author Prof Peter Stott of the Met Office, the strongest result of any attribution study to date.

So good news then because Siberia is fecking cold at the best of times.

[Gadgetmac]

Jinx said:

So good news then because Siberia is fecking cold at the best of times.

Book your 2 week all-inclusive now before the rush.

[Jinx]

Gadgetmac said:

Jinx said:

So good news then because Siberia is fecking cold at the best of times.

Book your 2 week all-inclusive now before the rush.

The way this government is going I'll probably be sent to the Siberian gulags soon enough for not wearing y-fronts on my head whilst shopping.

[robinessex]

Gadgetmac said:

More Science:

Climate change: Siberian heatwave 'clear evidence' of warming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-534...

A record-breaking heatwave in Siberia would have been almost impossible without human-caused climate change, a study has found.

The Russian region's temperatures were more than 5C above average between January and June of this year.

Temperatures exceeded 38C in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk on 20 June, the highest temperature ever recorded north of the Arctic circle.

An international team of climate scientists, led by the UK Met Office, found the record average temperatures were likely to happen less than once every 80,000 years without human-induced climate change.

That makes such an event "almost impossible" had the world not been warmed by greenhouse gas emissions, they conclude in the study.

The scientists described the finding as "unequivocal evidence of the impact of climate change on the planet".

It is, says co-author Prof Peter Stott of the Met Office, the strongest result of any attribution study to date.

Greatest temperature range on Earth

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records...

Temperature range - world

Where

Verkhoyansk Russian Federation (Siberia)

The greatest recorded temperature ranges in the world are around the Siberian `cold pole' in the east of Russia. Temperatures in Verkhoyansk (67ø33'N, 133ø23'E) have ranged 105degC 188degF, from -68øC -90øF to 37øC 98øF.

No surprise there then, another Beeb none story.

The northernmost town in the Arctic, Verkhoyansk is one of the coldest inhabited places on Earth and regularly records some of the world’s lowest temperatures.
However, this week it made headlines when it reached a sweltering 38C, the highest temperature since records began 150 years ago.

That's 1 deg C greater than the last record. Oh wow !!!

Edited by robinessex on Thursday 16th July 12:42

[Beati Dogu]

robinessex said:

That's 1 deg C greater than the last record. Oh wow !!!

There's never a margin of error with any of these figures is there? It's always absolutes.

The weather station is probably located next to an air conditioning outfall vent.

[robinessex]

Beati Dogu said:

robinessex said:

That's 1 deg C greater than the last record. Oh wow !!!

There's never a margin of error with any of these figures is there? It's always absolutes.

The weather station is probably located next to an air conditioning outfall vent.

More likely the temperature reading guy was sloshed on cheap Russian Vodka

[Gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

Gadgetmac said:

More Science:

Climate change: Siberian heatwave 'clear evidence' of warming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-534...

A record-breaking heatwave in Siberia would have been almost impossible without human-caused climate change, a study has found.

The Russian region's temperatures were more than 5C above average between January and June of this year.

Temperatures exceeded 38C in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk on 20 June, the highest temperature ever recorded north of the Arctic circle.

An international team of climate scientists, led by the UK Met Office, found the record average temperatures were likely to happen less than once every 80,000 years without human-induced climate change.

That makes such an event "almost impossible" had the world not been warmed by greenhouse gas emissions, they conclude in the study.

The scientists described the finding as "unequivocal evidence of the impact of climate change on the planet".

It is, says co-author Prof Peter Stott of the Met Office, the strongest result of any attribution study to date.

Greatest temperature range on Earth

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records...

Temperature range - world

Where

Verkhoyansk Russian Federation (Siberia)

The greatest recorded temperature ranges in the world are around the Siberian `cold pole' in the east of Russia. Temperatures in Verkhoyansk (67ø33'N, 133ø23'E) have ranged 105degC 188degF, from -68øC -90øF to 37øC 98øF.

No surprise there then, another Beeb none story.

The northernmost town in the Arctic, Verkhoyansk is one of the coldest inhabited places on Earth and regularly records some of the world’s lowest temperatures.
However, this week it made headlines when it reached a sweltering 38C, the highest temperature since records began 150 years ago.

That's 1 deg C greater than the last record. Oh wow !!!

That’s not the story though is it. The single day record is just one day in a prolonged period where the average temperatures were 5 degrees C above the norm. The clue, for the hard of thinking, is in the word “heatwave” used in the headline.

It’s also not just a beeb story but a study carried out by an international group of scientists.

Now, Rob, what science do you have to counter this study? Not bullst handwaving about “beeb non-stories” and the like but actual data or perhaps a counter study?

[durbster]

Gadgetmac said:

Now, Rob, what science do you have to counter this study? Not bullst handwaving about “beeb non-stories” and the like but actual data or perhaps a counter study?

To be fair, as well as dismissing evidence without any reasoning whatsoever he added an offensive stereotype, so that's something new.

[Gadgetmac]

durbster said:

Gadgetmac said:

Now, Rob, what science do you have to counter this study? Not bullst handwaving about “beeb non-stories” and the like but actual data or perhaps a counter study?

To be fair, as well as dismissing evidence without any reasoning whatsoever he added an offensive stereotype, so that's something new.

Casual xenophobia, It’s never a good look.

What I most love about Rob though is his unerring willingness to start bashing away at any science reported using the bluntest of instruments, his intellect.