Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)
Discussion
Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
It’s not “lakes will freeze less in winter” it’s lakes ARE freezing less in winter NOW and at an accelerating rate - it’s another signpost.
If you’re not impressed or even interested in that then I’d suggest ignoring it and not bothering to make waste-of-bandwidth posts but you don’t seem able to do that.
This is the science thread, the latest science research has a home here, I’d get used to it.
Do you have anything scientifically interesting to post? Should I be impressed with the discovery that lakes ARE freezing less in the winter. Winter is getting warmer, it isn’t exactly ground braking research. If you’re not impressed or even interested in that then I’d suggest ignoring it and not bothering to make waste-of-bandwidth posts but you don’t seem able to do that.
This is the science thread, the latest science research has a home here, I’d get used to it.
More climate science ahoy...
Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
Gadgetmac said:
More climate science ahoy...
Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
Unprecedented rise in temperatures...Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
...since 1993.
(Yes, that’s my scientific feedback.)
Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
More climate science ahoy...
Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
Unprecedented rise in temperatures...Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
...since 1993.
(Yes, that’s my scientific feedback.)
Kawasicki said:
I’m also pretty sure the scientists can keep up this facade for a long, long time.
"The new Cedrela chronologies from the Amazon, when compared with the hundreds of tree-ring chronologies in temperate North and South America, document this Pan American resonance of climate and ecosystem extremes in the centuries before widespread deforestation or human-caused climate change“
Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Gadgetmac said:
Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
More climate science ahoy...
Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
Unprecedented rise in temperatures...Climate change responsible for record sea temperature levels, says study
https://phys.org/news/2020-10-climate-responsible-...
First few paras...
Global warming is driving an unprecedented rise in sea temperatures including in the Mediterranean, according to a major new report published by the peer-reviewed Journal of Operational Oceanography.
Data from the European Union's (EU) Copernicus Marine Environment Monitoring Service (CMEMS) will increase concerns about the threat to the world's seas and oceans from climate change.
The Ocean State Report reveals an overall trend globally of surface warming based on evidence from 1993 to 2018, with the largest rise in the Arctic Ocean.
European seas experienced record high temperatures in 2018, a phenomenon which the researchers attribute to extreme weather conditions—a marine heat wave lasting several months.
...since 1993.
(Yes, that’s my scientific feedback.)
Kawasicki said:
I’m also pretty sure the scientists can keep up this facade for a long, long time.
Keep the posts coming, they are very illuminating.
Kawasicki said:
Try to stick to the science, it’s clearly a bit thin in substance, but don’t give up.
Keep the posts coming, they are very illuminating.
What's REALLY illuminating is now we know what your base line is. No wonder you argue against every single SCIENCE paper published on here.Keep the posts coming, they are very illuminating.
I'll continue to post them you continue to don your tin foil hat.
Gadgetmac said:
Kawasicki said:
Try to stick to the science, it’s clearly a bit thin in substance, but don’t give up.
Keep the posts coming, they are very illuminating.
What's REALLY illuminating is now we know what your base line is. No wonder you argue against every single SCIENCE paper published on here.Keep the posts coming, they are very illuminating.
I'll continue to post them you continue to don your tin foil hat.
Kawasicki said:
You see conspiracies everywhere.
The very definition of a conspiracy theory...Kawasicki said:
I’m also pretty sure the scientists can keep up this facade for a long, long time.
Now I'm done. As I said on page 213 (and others have also said) you're playing games. Likely aimed at provoking a ban from the moderators.It didn't work for DM I'm not going to let it work for you.
Gadgetmac said:
Kawasicki said:
You see conspiracies everywhere.
The very definition of a conspiracy theory...Kawasicki said:
I’m also pretty sure the scientists can keep up this facade for a long, long time.
Now I'm done. As I said on page 213 (and others have also said) you're playing games. Likely aimed at provoking a ban from the moderators.It didn't work for DM I'm not going to let it work for you.
I’m also very curious how a ban would be justified for what I have written. I’m discussing the pathetic state of the climate science we are expected to be able to digest, not much more.
You can't debate with someone who comes from such an extreme view point. They'll call black white and even when shown it's not they'll carry on regardless.
Like you over the "Spain sees record temps" headlines used by both the world's media and articles on scientific websites like phys.org. You'll never accept it and argue until everybody has pissed off somewhere else through boredom.
Your conspiratorial ideology won't let you believe what science is saying in papers published every single day so you'll spark an argument against every paper even though you have no background in any of the subjects or even fully understand what's being said by the scientists. Your argument about ppm was one you were having with yourself.
The ban will come from the mods seeing this as both you and I engaging in this...something another poster hoped for but it back fired. I'm not sure they would ban you but they will ban me.
Now I really am out
Like you over the "Spain sees record temps" headlines used by both the world's media and articles on scientific websites like phys.org. You'll never accept it and argue until everybody has pissed off somewhere else through boredom.
Your conspiratorial ideology won't let you believe what science is saying in papers published every single day so you'll spark an argument against every paper even though you have no background in any of the subjects or even fully understand what's being said by the scientists. Your argument about ppm was one you were having with yourself.
The ban will come from the mods seeing this as both you and I engaging in this...something another poster hoped for but it back fired. I'm not sure they would ban you but they will ban me.
Now I really am out
LimSlip said:
Gadgetmac said:
Now I really am out
Congrats on diluting down any real science that may have been posted in this thread.
Kawasicki said:
"The new Cedrela chronologies from the Amazon, when compared with the hundreds of tree-ring chronologies in temperate North and South America, document this Pan American resonance of climate and ecosystem extremes in the centuries before widespread deforestation or human-caused climate change“
Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Say the non-fashionable thing and you don't get any more funding.Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Kawasicki said:
"The new Cedrela chronologies from the Amazon, when compared with the hundreds of tree-ring chronologies in temperate North and South America, document this Pan American resonance of climate and ecosystem extremes in the centuries before widespread deforestation or human-caused climate change“
Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Reading comprehension fail? The researcher's conclusions came AFTER the bit you've quoted:Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
"While that remains an open question, the longer Cedrela-based precipitation record indicates that periods of rainfall extremes occurred in the past and the current extremes might be partly due to natural climate rhythms."
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kerplunk said:
Kawasicki said:
"The new Cedrela chronologies from the Amazon, when compared with the hundreds of tree-ring chronologies in temperate North and South America, document this Pan American resonance of climate and ecosystem extremes in the centuries before widespread deforestation or human-caused climate change“
Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
Reading comprehension fail? The researcher's conclusions came AFTER the bit you've quoted:Can anyone see an AGW signal? Anyone?
The researchers can...
“In the past 40 years, drought and flood extremes have increased in the Amazon basin, the researchers noted, raising the question of whether human-induced climate change and deforestation are affecting Amazon climate.“
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/2010...
https://youtu.be/YEGJDvdwAu8
The researchers have come to a conclusion CLEARLY not supported by their own data. Why?
"While that remains an open question, the longer Cedrela-based precipitation record indicates that periods of rainfall extremes occurred in the past and the current extremes might be partly due to natural climate rhythms."
.
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