Climate Change - The Scientific Debate (Vol. II)
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Gadgetmac said:
Real science in a published paper.
Ninety years of data shows global warming impacts on foundation of marine ecosystems
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-years-global-impacts...
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The University of Technology Sydney (UTS) led research, published in Frontiers in Marine Science, provides insights into the potential traits that may determine the adaptive capacity or survivability of species under climate change.
Lead author, Dr. Penelope Ajani, said environmental data showed ocean temperature had risen 1.8°C over 90 years in south eastern Australia, one of the greatest warming regions in the world.
"We examined the phytoplankton community response to this long-term ocean warming using the Community Temperature Index (CTI), "Dr. Ajani said.
The CTI is an index of the preferred temperature of a phytoplankton community.
"We found a significant increase in the CTI overtime which suggests that the relative proportion of warm-water to cold-water species has increased," Dr. Ajani said.
Copy and paste, where is the link to CO2 ?Ninety years of data shows global warming impacts on foundation of marine ecosystems
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-years-global-impacts...
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The University of Technology Sydney (UTS) led research, published in Frontiers in Marine Science, provides insights into the potential traits that may determine the adaptive capacity or survivability of species under climate change.
Lead author, Dr. Penelope Ajani, said environmental data showed ocean temperature had risen 1.8°C over 90 years in south eastern Australia, one of the greatest warming regions in the world.
"We examined the phytoplankton community response to this long-term ocean warming using the Community Temperature Index (CTI), "Dr. Ajani said.
The CTI is an index of the preferred temperature of a phytoplankton community.
"We found a significant increase in the CTI overtime which suggests that the relative proportion of warm-water to cold-water species has increased," Dr. Ajani said.
Remember that we are coming out of an ice age and expected the temperatures to rise.
Species adapt to a changing environment, this certainly is ground breaking research.
This species does well in warmer water, reproduces rapidly and can survive in a wide temperature range. Together with the formation of resting spores and a high degree of variability in size, shape and physiology, these traits may point to the adaptive capacity or survivability of species under climate change, " Dr. Ajani said
I will ask again who put you in charge of what can or cannot be posted on this thread?
PRTVR said:
I will ask again who put you in charge of what can or cannot be posted on this thread?
I'm not sure you understand. He posted a published scientific paper relating to climate change in the climate change science thread. Your YouTube videos are in no way scientific, so have no relevance to this thread.
Here's an explanation of what science is; specifically the scientific method: https://www.ducksters.com/science/scientificmethod...
PRTVR said:
Copy and paste, where is the link to CO2 ?
Comprehension fail. It's not about co2 per se, it's about the effects of global warming on a particular eco system.PRTVR said:
Remember that we are coming out of an ice age and expected the temperatures to rise.
So it's all natural warming over the last century is it? Nothing to do with humans pumping co2 into the atmosphere? That's to be discounted, yes? Got some evidence for that? And by evidence I mean something from a reputable source. At least in this post you're acknowledging warming of some kind I suppose. But try to be consistent, there either is warming or there isn't. I've seen posts from you about the numbers being fiddled for scientists to carry on receiving funding implying that without such fraud there would be no warming. Make your mind up. PRTVR said:
I will ask again who put you in charge of what can or cannot be posted on this thread?
And I'll tell you again, post what you like but don't expect me to watch or read your ridiculous conspiratorial/advocacy blogs or YouTube videos.Hearing on the ITV news that Biden will be bringing the USA back into the Paris Agreement.
He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
mko9 said:
We don’t need to be in that agreement, US emissions have been going down since the 1970s. The US is not the problem, just the piggy bank.
Haven't US emissions have fallen largely due to fracking making gas cheaper and driving coal out ?Ie wont continue to fall at the same rate once coal is off the bars.
Gadgetmac said:
Hearing on the ITV news that Biden will be bringing the USA back into the Paris Agreement.
He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
The scientific output will change under Biden, that’s for sure.He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
Hearing on the ITV news that Biden will be bringing the USA back into the Paris Agreement.
He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
The scientific output will change under Biden, that’s for sure.He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
Gadgetmac said:
Hearing on the ITV news that Biden will be bringing the USA back into the Paris Agreement.
He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
“Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reasons.”He'll also not have to endure Trump's climate advice lobby and install somebody to help guide him who actually knows the difference between researched science and right wing dogma.
Yeah it's politics but it's also 2 big wins for science right there.
This is gonna wind some people up...
New app allows users to explore how global warming changes their cities' climate
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-app-users-explore-gl...
A new mobile app allows people to explore how global warming will affect the future climate of their towns and cities.
Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The interactive simulations show the projected climate outcome of achieving the 2015 UN Paris Agreement 'low CO2 emissions' target of limiting global warming to below 2oC by 2100. This is Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The release of the app comes as the countdown begins to the UN Climate Change Conference—COP26—due to have started in Glasgow this week but postponed to November 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Glasgow is where countries will agree their next round of emissions cuts, six years after the Paris Agreement.
"We want people to see for themselves what the best climate scientists and the best climate models show for the places in the world that they care about," said Asher Minns, Executive Director at the Tyndall Centre. "The app ensures climate data is made accessible to global citizens without interpretation by politicians, media, campaigners or anyone else.
"Opinion polls across the world show that people are worried about climate change but rarely discuss it. The ESD Research app now supports these necessary conversations about where they live, whether with family, friends, colleagues or local government leaders."
I’ve not downloaded it myself but I’ve no doubt I’ll get reviews about it from others
The University of East Anglia, now where have I heard about them before
New app allows users to explore how global warming changes their cities' climate
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-app-users-explore-gl...
A new mobile app allows people to explore how global warming will affect the future climate of their towns and cities.
Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The interactive simulations show the projected climate outcome of achieving the 2015 UN Paris Agreement 'low CO2 emissions' target of limiting global warming to below 2oC by 2100. This is Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The release of the app comes as the countdown begins to the UN Climate Change Conference—COP26—due to have started in Glasgow this week but postponed to November 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Glasgow is where countries will agree their next round of emissions cuts, six years after the Paris Agreement.
"We want people to see for themselves what the best climate scientists and the best climate models show for the places in the world that they care about," said Asher Minns, Executive Director at the Tyndall Centre. "The app ensures climate data is made accessible to global citizens without interpretation by politicians, media, campaigners or anyone else.
"Opinion polls across the world show that people are worried about climate change but rarely discuss it. The ESD Research app now supports these necessary conversations about where they live, whether with family, friends, colleagues or local government leaders."
I’ve not downloaded it myself but I’ve no doubt I’ll get reviews about it from others
The University of East Anglia, now where have I heard about them before
durbster said:
PRTVR said:
I will ask again who put you in charge of what can or cannot be posted on this thread?
I'm not sure you understand. He posted a published scientific paper relating to climate change in the climate change science thread. Your YouTube videos are in no way scientific, so have no relevance to this thread.
Here's an explanation of what science is; specifically the scientific method: https://www.ducksters.com/science/scientificmethod...
What is the Scientific Method?
The scientific method is defined as a method of research in which a problem is identified, relevant data is gathered, a hypothesis is formulated from this data, and the hypothesis is empirically tested.
What in the world does that mean?!?
In simple terms, the scientific method is a way for scientists to study and learn things. It doesn't matter what the scientist is trying to learn, using the scientific method can help them come up with an answer.
The first thing to do with the scientific method is to come up with a question. You can't find the answer until you know the question after all!
Care to tell us what the the CC question is then ?
Gadgetmac said:
This is gonna wind some people up...
New app allows users to explore how global warming changes their cities' climate
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-app-users-explore-gl...
A new mobile app allows people to explore how global warming will affect the future climate of their towns and cities.
Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The interactive simulations show the projected climate outcome of achieving the 2015 UN Paris Agreement 'low CO2 emissions' target of limiting global warming to below 2oC by 2100. This is Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The release of the app comes as the countdown begins to the UN Climate Change Conference—COP26—due to have started in Glasgow this week but postponed to November 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Glasgow is where countries will agree their next round of emissions cuts, six years after the Paris Agreement.
"We want people to see for themselves what the best climate scientists and the best climate models show for the places in the world that they care about," said Asher Minns, Executive Director at the Tyndall Centre. "The app ensures climate data is made accessible to global citizens without interpretation by politicians, media, campaigners or anyone else.
"Opinion polls across the world show that people are worried about climate change but rarely discuss it. The ESD Research app now supports these necessary conversations about where they live, whether with family, friends, colleagues or local government leaders."
I’ve not downloaded it myself but I’ve no doubt I’ll get reviews about it from others
The University of East Anglia, now where have I heard about them before
Oh no, not another mathmatical model. The University of East Anglia. Climategate rings a bell. PS don't claim a subsequent inquiry exonerated them, we can all read you know.New app allows users to explore how global warming changes their cities' climate
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-app-users-explore-gl...
A new mobile app allows people to explore how global warming will affect the future climate of their towns and cities.
Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The interactive simulations show the projected climate outcome of achieving the 2015 UN Paris Agreement 'low CO2 emissions' target of limiting global warming to below 2oC by 2100. This is Developed by EarthSystemData Ltd with the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia (UEA), the free to download 'ESD Research' app enables anyone anywhere to access the latest temperature and rainfall projections from the world's top six most scientifically respected climate models.
The release of the app comes as the countdown begins to the UN Climate Change Conference—COP26—due to have started in Glasgow this week but postponed to November 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Glasgow is where countries will agree their next round of emissions cuts, six years after the Paris Agreement.
"We want people to see for themselves what the best climate scientists and the best climate models show for the places in the world that they care about," said Asher Minns, Executive Director at the Tyndall Centre. "The app ensures climate data is made accessible to global citizens without interpretation by politicians, media, campaigners or anyone else.
"Opinion polls across the world show that people are worried about climate change but rarely discuss it. The ESD Research app now supports these necessary conversations about where they live, whether with family, friends, colleagues or local government leaders."
I’ve not downloaded it myself but I’ve no doubt I’ll get reviews about it from others
The University of East Anglia, now where have I heard about them before
robinessex said:
Oh no, not another mathmatical model. The University of East Anglia. Climategate rings a bell. PS don't claim a subsequent inquiry exonerated them, we can all read you know.
If you could read you’d have read the conclusions of the many independent inquires into it...not to mention watched the TV documentary that spelled it out for conspiraloons.Gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
Oh no, not another mathmatical model. The University of East Anglia. Climategate rings a bell. PS don't claim a subsequent inquiry exonerated them, we can all read you know.
If you could read you’d have read the conclusions of the many independent inquires into it...not to mention watched the TV documentary that spelled it out for conspiraloons.Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/chr...
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.
Climategate Whitewash
https://cei.org/blog/climategate-whitewash/
The UK’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee has issued its report into the so-called Climategate scandal. As might be expected, it’s pretty much a whitewash, except as detailed below. Only one MP dissented from its conclusions. There seem to me to be some serious errors and omissions in the reports, but I’m not the only one. For instance, Fred Pearce of New Scientist and The Guardian has some pretty serious things to say in his story, Hacked climate email inquiry cleared Jones but serious questions remain:
robinessex said:
Gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
Oh no, not another mathmatical model. The University of East Anglia. Climategate rings a bell. PS don't claim a subsequent inquiry exonerated them, we can all read you know.
If you could read you’d have read the conclusions of the many independent inquires into it...not to mention watched the TV documentary that spelled it out for conspiraloons.Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/chr...
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.
Climategate Whitewash
https://cei.org/blog/climategate-whitewash/
The UK’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee has issued its report into the so-called Climategate scandal. As might be expected, it’s pretty much a whitewash, except as detailed below. Only one MP dissented from its conclusions. There seem to me to be some serious errors and omissions in the reports, but I’m not the only one. For instance, Fred Pearce of New Scientist and The Guardian has some pretty serious things to say in his story, Hacked climate email inquiry cleared Jones but serious questions remain:
1. An article written in November 2009 from that well known climate change denier Christopher Booker (deceased). Written BEFORE any of the 3 Inquiries had even begun. He also disputed the link between passive smoking and cancer, and the dangers posed by asbestos.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cms...
2. "The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) which is a advocacy group based in Washington DC with long ties to tobacco disinformation campaigns and more recently to climate change denial."
Oil giant ExxonMobil has been one of CEI's top funders, contributing at least $2.1 million since 1997. Donors Trust (DT) has donated over $4 million to CEI as of 2013. DT has been described as the “dark money ATM of the conservative movement” for its ability to take in funds from anonymous donors and distribute them to recipient organizations.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Competitive_...
https://www.desmogblog.com/competitive-enterprise-...
Your sources need more credibility.
Gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
Gadgetmac said:
robinessex said:
Oh no, not another mathmatical model. The University of East Anglia. Climategate rings a bell. PS don't claim a subsequent inquiry exonerated them, we can all read you know.
If you could read you’d have read the conclusions of the many independent inquires into it...not to mention watched the TV documentary that spelled it out for conspiraloons.Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/chr...
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.
Climategate Whitewash
https://cei.org/blog/climategate-whitewash/
The UK’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee has issued its report into the so-called Climategate scandal. As might be expected, it’s pretty much a whitewash, except as detailed below. Only one MP dissented from its conclusions. There seem to me to be some serious errors and omissions in the reports, but I’m not the only one. For instance, Fred Pearce of New Scientist and The Guardian has some pretty serious things to say in his story, Hacked climate email inquiry cleared Jones but serious questions remain:
1. An article written in November 2009 from that well known climate change denier Christopher Booker (deceased). Written BEFORE any of the 3 Inquiries had even begun. He also disputed the link between passive smoking and cancer, and the dangers posed by asbestos.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cms...
2. "The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) which is a advocacy group based in Washington DC with long ties to tobacco disinformation campaigns and more recently to climate change denial."
Oil giant ExxonMobil has been one of CEI's top funders, contributing at least $2.1 million since 1997. Donors Trust (DT) has donated over $4 million to CEI as of 2013. DT has been described as the “dark money ATM of the conservative movement” for its ability to take in funds from anonymous donors and distribute them to recipient organizations.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Competitive_...
https://www.desmogblog.com/competitive-enterprise-...
Your sources need more credibility.
You won't like this one either:-
Legacy of Climategate – 10 years later
https://judithcurry.com/2019/11/12/legacy-of-clima...
And finally:-
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=...
Enjoy the reading. The last sentence is:-
"The world still awaits a proper inquiry into climategate: one that is not stacked with global warming advocates, and one that is prepared to cross-examine evidence, interview critics as well as supporters of the CRU and other IPCC players, and follow the evidence where it leads."
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