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Oh me, oh my... will SLS ever fly? A good summation of Boeing's megarocket and its wet dress woes from Jeffrey Kluger.
"It is a fact of orbital mechanics that the moon is steadily receding from the Earth. Every year the distance between the two worlds grows by 3.78 cm (1.48 in.), or about the speed at which our fingernails grow. That's not much compared to the overall 384,472 km (238,900 mi.) average distance between the Earth and the moon, and there's no reason to worry that the moon will be bidding us farewell any time soon. Still, ever since April 1—and especially in the last week—the gap between the Earth and the moon suddenly seems wider than ever. For that, you can thank issues with the Space Launch System (SLS), NASA's brand new mega-rocket designed to return American astronauts to the lunar surface sometime this decade.
It was on March 17 that the towering 98 m (322 ft.) rocket emerged from its hangar in the Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) and began its slow creep out to its launch pad. The rocket wasn't getting set to fly, but rather to undergo what NASA calls a wet dress rehearsal. That involves filling the giant machine's tanks with 2.8 million liters (730,000 gal.) of liquid oxygen and hydrogen fuel and running a simulated 45-hour countdown, taking it down to the T-minus 9.3 second mark before stopping the exercise, draining the fuel and rolling the SLS back to the VAB for further readying. The initial steps of the exercise began on April 1, and let's just say that if a Broadway-bound show had a dress rehearsal anything like what the SLS has had, the whole production would close out of town.
As NASA reports in an admirably candid blog, the last 15 days out at launchpad 39B have involved one headache after another, with serial breakdowns repeatedly forcing the countdown to be stopped. among the most serious problems is a stuck helium valve on the rocket's second stage that has prevented that stage from being loaded with fuel. The problem can't be repaired on the pad, but only back in the VAB—meaning that even if the rest of the work went perfectly, the wet-dress rehearsal would still not be run to its planned completion.
And the rest of the work is by no means going perfectly. among the other problems to beset the giant rocket over the past two weeks: a liquid hydrogen leak in one of the vehicle's umbilical cords; temperature fluctuations in the supercold liquid oxygen fuel which must be kept at -182º C (-297º F); and a troubling pressure surge in the liquid hydrogen flow line. All of this has prevented ground controllers from loading the liquid hydrogen tank to more than just 5% of its capacity and the liquid oxygen tank to more than 49%.
NASA has not said how many more times it will attempt wet-dress rehearsals before giving up. What it has said is that, one way or another, it will stay on the job and that the SLS will ultimately fly. For that bit of cockeyed optimism, NASA has history on its side. As veteran space reporter Bill Harwood of CBS reports, back in the 1960s, an intended six-day countdown of the venerable Saturn V rocket took 17 days to complete—longer than the SLS has so far been at it. As history notes, the Saturn V ultimately flew, taking nine crews of astronauts to the moon and back. May the SLS have the same good fortune."
Oh me, oh my... will SLS ever fly? A good summation of Boeing's megarocket and its wet dress woes from Jeffrey Kluger.
"It is a fact of orbital mechanics that the moon is steadily receding from the Earth. Every year the distance between the two worlds grows by 3.78 cm (1.48 in.), or about the speed at which our fingernails grow. That's not much compared to the overall 384,472 km (238,900 mi.) average distance between the Earth and the moon, and there's no reason to worry that the moon will be bidding us farewell any time soon. Still, ever since April 1—and especially in the last week—the gap between the Earth and the moon suddenly seems wider than ever. For that, you can thank issues with the Space Launch System (SLS), NASA's brand new mega-rocket designed to return American astronauts to the lunar surface sometime this decade.
It was on March 17 that the towering 98 m (322 ft.) rocket emerged from its hangar in the Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) and began its slow creep out to its launch pad. The rocket wasn't getting set to fly, but rather to undergo what NASA calls a wet dress rehearsal. That involves filling the giant machine's tanks with 2.8 million liters (730,000 gal.) of liquid oxygen and hydrogen fuel and running a simulated 45-hour countdown, taking it down to the T-minus 9.3 second mark before stopping the exercise, draining the fuel and rolling the SLS back to the VAB for further readying. The initial steps of the exercise began on April 1, and let's just say that if a Broadway-bound show had a dress rehearsal anything like what the SLS has had, the whole production would close out of town.
As NASA reports in an admirably candid blog, the last 15 days out at launchpad 39B have involved one headache after another, with serial breakdowns repeatedly forcing the countdown to be stopped. among the most serious problems is a stuck helium valve on the rocket's second stage that has prevented that stage from being loaded with fuel. The problem can't be repaired on the pad, but only back in the VAB—meaning that even if the rest of the work went perfectly, the wet-dress rehearsal would still not be run to its planned completion.
And the rest of the work is by no means going perfectly. among the other problems to beset the giant rocket over the past two weeks: a liquid hydrogen leak in one of the vehicle's umbilical cords; temperature fluctuations in the supercold liquid oxygen fuel which must be kept at -182º C (-297º F); and a troubling pressure surge in the liquid hydrogen flow line. All of this has prevented ground controllers from loading the liquid hydrogen tank to more than just 5% of its capacity and the liquid oxygen tank to more than 49%.
NASA has not said how many more times it will attempt wet-dress rehearsals before giving up. What it has said is that, one way or another, it will stay on the job and that the SLS will ultimately fly. For that bit of cockeyed optimism, NASA has history on its side. As veteran space reporter Bill Harwood of CBS reports, back in the 1960s, an intended six-day countdown of the venerable Saturn V rocket took 17 days to complete—longer than the SLS has so far been at it. As history notes, the Saturn V ultimately flew, taking nine crews of astronauts to the moon and back. May the SLS have the same good fortune."
Is it possible that political pressure may result in them just saying "we have the data we need, next rollout will be for launch" and then doing a Delta-IV esque multi-month stay on the pad?
Would that impact on any other launches?
I suspect you can see what I am thinking, regarding the next tactic to keep Starship on the ground ...
Would that impact on any other launches?
I suspect you can see what I am thinking, regarding the next tactic to keep Starship on the ground ...
I see that they have now decided that despite the leak and the countdown stopping 30 seconds before launch (instead of 10 seconds, which was the plan) they have decided "ah, good enough" and are going to have a crack at launching it (after rollback, installation of Flight Termination System and rollback)
Between that and the "oh yeah, the SRBs that we said had a 12 month lifespan and are now 18 months old will be absolutely fine, no worries" it does feel a little bit like they have "Go Fever"
Between that and the "oh yeah, the SRBs that we said had a 12 month lifespan and are now 18 months old will be absolutely fine, no worries" it does feel a little bit like they have "Go Fever"
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