Effect of Brexit on UK Space Industry ?

[Tempest_5]

ITAR is also about technology transfer and is regarded by people who have to deal with it as a right pain in the backside. ITAR is therefore avoided as much as possible. Look up Boeing's adventures with Long March launchers for the origins of ITAR becoming more stringent.

[Tempest_5]

Having worked as a Spacecraft Engineer in the UK/European space industry for almost 26 years I hereby predict that we are as an industry in the UK now royally bugg@red (my opinion, not my employers, I have to state that). I work with colleagues in Europe everyday & see how integrated we are.

My employer has publicly stated that they will no longer invest in the UK on a Leave vote.

Competitors in other countries will now be champing at the bit to cut us out as a country and get our slice of the action.

Oh, well. I'm 48, it's been an interesting career. Not sure what to do now.

[Simpo Two]

Tempest_5 said:

My employer has publicly stated that they will no longer invest in the UK on a Leave vote.

By 'invest' do you mean 'buy things from'?

[MartG]

Don't forget that it's not just the UK space industry which will be affected. A lot of scientific research work in the UK is funded via the EU, and I for one do not trust our government to replace that funding on a like-for-like basis using the cash they are notionally supposed to be saving from EU contributions.

[Tempest_5]

My take on it is - Invest, as in the sites in other European countries get the new improved manufacturing facilities/processes, then over a few years they get all the work because we are no longer economic here. Ultimate end result - possible UK site closure.

Everyone really stunned and quiet at work today. I appreciate how other industries are affected. That is what makes it more devastating. Saddened Remain did such a poor job of explaining the benefits of the EU.

[Sylvaforever]

Flooble said:

I think negative, because of the spite and hatred.

Indeed. In France the EU rag is everywhere plastered on Air France aircraft on buses, anywhere the powers that be can either raise it or stick it.

Which is at odds the normal citizens simmering nationalism and pride in France.

Very odd indeed, takes a bit of getting used to the juxtaposition.

[Simpo Two]

Sylvaforever said:

Flooble said:

I think negative, because of the spite and hatred.

Indeed. In France the EU rag is everywhere plastered on Air France aircraft on buses, anywhere the powers that be can either raise it or stick it.

Allende was one of the very few spiteful ones. Merkel, who is much more important and the most powerful, is being the most sensible.

[Flooble]

As you would expect. After all, remember which country repeatedly vetoed UK entry into the EU in the first place ...

[Simpo Two]

Flooble said:

As you would expect. After all, remember which country repeatedly vetoed UK entry into the EU in the first place ...

So they didn't want us to join but get arsey when we leave...? I'll call it 'French logic'.

[Flooble]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/n...

[Simpo Two]

Ha, de Gaulle. He let the Allies liberate his country, then turned up when it was all over and took the credit.

[SMB]

Tempest_5 said:

My take on it is - Invest, as in the sites in other European countries get the new improved manufacturing facilities/processes, then over a few years they get all the work because we are no longer economic here. Ultimate end result - possible UK site closure.

Just imagine how stunned people will be when the same happens with JLR, BMW/Mini, Nissan, Honda etc and their associated suppliers...

[Flooble]

I do rather suspect that a lot of people have not realised just how few companies in the UK are actually still owned by, er, the UK.

[annodomini2]

I think many are also naive to how much industry is actually left in this country.

Depends who takes on the PMs role after DC as to whether we leave the EEA/Single Market or not.