JWST launch delayed to 2019

JWST launch delayed to 2019

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ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Turns out I was watching the NASA feed on a 30 minute or so delay.

Well done ESA and Ariane 5 looked like a textbook launch although they did say the solar array unfurled sooner than planned, don't know what that was about.

ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
So this year then?

Is this the first time we've had a launch date that was actually in the current year?
Yes, but only just.

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
OK, it's a tiny dot in the sky that you can see but 99 in a 100 wouldn't be able to tell you what it was.
But not because they can’t see it. Only because they don’t know what they are looking at.
It’s actually an extremely bright dot.

skwdenyer

16,612 posts

241 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Turns out I was watching the NASA feed on a 30 minute or so delay.

Well done ESA and Ariane 5 looked like a textbook launch although they did say the solar array unfurled sooner than planned, don't know what that was about.
“Sooner than planned” isn’t a good start - after all these years, there shouldn’t be any uncertainty in what the thing will do and when!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Eric Mc said:
ChocolateFrog said:
OK, it's a tiny dot in the sky that you can see but 99 in a 100 wouldn't be able to tell you what it was.
But not because they can’t see it. Only because they don’t know what they are looking at.
It’s actually an extremely bright dot.
Eric!! Tone it down for Xmas, there’s a good chap.

Stan the Bat

8,955 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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skwdenyer said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Turns out I was watching the NASA feed on a 30 minute or so delay.

Well done ESA and Ariane 5 looked like a textbook launch although they did say the solar array unfurled sooner than planned, don't know what that was about.
“Sooner than planned” isn’t a good start - after all these years, there shouldn’t be any uncertainty in what the thing will do and when!
Didn't notice that , unfurled right on time I thought.

ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Stan the Bat said:
skwdenyer said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Turns out I was watching the NASA feed on a 30 minute or so delay.

Well done ESA and Ariane 5 looked like a textbook launch although they did say the solar array unfurled sooner than planned, don't know what that was about.
“Sooner than planned” isn’t a good start - after all these years, there shouldn’t be any uncertainty in what the thing will do and when!
Didn't notice that , unfurled right on time I thought.
Not what the dude doing the commentary on the NASA feed said.

Krikkit

26,566 posts

182 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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garyhun said:
Eric!! Tone it down for Xmas, there’s a good chap.
I’d suggest you might want to tone it down yourself.

I wasn’t being rude.
I wasn’t being nasty.
I wasn’t being condescending.

I was just pointing out the fact that the ISS is very bright and very noticeable.

I won’t say any more on the subject . You can have a last word on the subject if you like, dear boy.


Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Krikkit said:
Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.
I wonder if it’s trajectory over the southern oceans and it’s proximity (or lack of) to ground tracking stations had anything to do with lack of extensive on board footage.
The relatively short view we had from the ground was due to the extensive cloud cover- not unusual for launches from French Guiana.

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Krikkit said:
Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.
Yes, the whole thing looked like it was generated by Kerbal after the initial shots through the clouds. We just now expect launches to be covered in 4K cameras, live. Anyway it’s on its way and looks like it is working so far….

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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rxe said:
Krikkit said:
Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.
Yes, the whole thing looked like it was generated by Kerbal after the initial shots through the clouds. We just now expect launches to be covered in 4K cameras, live. Anyway it’s on its way and looks like it is working so far….
We have definitely been spoiled by the SpaceX onboard cameras.

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Cape Canaveral launches tend to have the best coverage.


ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Eric Mc said:
garyhun said:
Eric!! Tone it down for Xmas, there’s a good chap.
I’d suggest you might want to tone it down yourself.

I wasn’t being rude.
I wasn’t being nasty.
I wasn’t being condescending.

I was just pointing out the fact that the ISS is very bright and very noticeable.

I won’t say any more on the subject . You can have a last word on the subject if you like, dear boy.
Just pedantic.


ChocolateFrog

25,614 posts

174 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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rxe said:
Krikkit said:
Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.
Yes, the whole thing looked like it was generated by Kerbal after the initial shots through the clouds. We just now expect launches to be covered in 4K cameras, live. Anyway it’s on its way and looks like it is working so far….
I thought this too. SpaceX really knows how to engage the more casual viewer, NASA could learn a few lessons.

Even the graphics along the bottom were barely readable on my phone, which must be how 90% of people were viewing it.

I know it's about the science but public opinion by and large writes the cheques.

Krikkit

26,566 posts

182 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Krikkit said:
Great it went well, definitely been spoilt by excellent SpaceX coverage, flipping over to a render rather than footage feels very old school now!

Hopefully the unfurling will go well, shame it doesn't have its own inspection cams to show us the progress.
I wonder if it’s trajectory over the southern oceans and it’s proximity (or lack of) to ground tracking stations had anything to do with lack of extensive on board footage.
The relatively short view we had from the ground was due to the extensive cloud cover- not unusual for launches from French Guiana.
They had continuous ground station coverage from the map provided, but who knows!

The graphics were pretty crap as noted, definitely not suited for small screen watching.

I suspect it was all ESA's doing rather than NASA, I've tried to watch a couple of launches before and had no joy

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

52 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Where is Webb? Currently about a 10th of the way to L2 and nearly 90k miles from Earth as I type this.

https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/where...


Beati Dogu

8,908 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Thanks, I was looking for that website.

The launch telemetry and trajectory info during the coverage will be from Arianespace, not NASA.

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Sunday 26th December 2021
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Well that's me pleasantly surprised after my predictions of doom.

Agree ref the render footage.. When the commentators are referencing kerbal you know its gone a bit far

ralphrj

3,537 posts

192 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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First images are in!