JWST launch delayed to 2019

JWST launch delayed to 2019

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pincher

8,564 posts

217 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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ralphrj said:
First images are in!
I was just about to post exactly the same biggrin

MartG

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20,682 posts

204 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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pincher said:
ralphrj said:
First images are in!
I was just about to post exactly the same biggrin
Me too biggrin

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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That really happened on a Russian space probe. A lens cap failed to pop off.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th December 2021
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Sunshield deployment going OK.

Beati Dogu

8,894 posts

139 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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It's beyond the Moon's orbit now.

They've also completed the second (of three) mid-course correction burns.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Stan the Bat said:
skwdenyer said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Turns out I was watching the NASA feed on a 30 minute or so delay.

Well done ESA and Ariane 5 looked like a textbook launch although they did say the solar array unfurled sooner than planned, don't know what that was about.
“Sooner than planned” isn’t a good start - after all these years, there shouldn’t be any uncertainty in what the thing will do and when!
Didn't notice that , unfurled right on time I thought.
NASA explain: "That deployment was executed automatically after rocket separation, based on a stored command to deploy either when Webb reached a certain attitude toward the Sun or automatically at 33 min. after launch. Because Webb was already in the correct attitude, the array deployed about 1.5 min after separation, or 29 min. after launch."

More good news: "Due to the precision of our launch and our first two mid-course corrections, our team has determined that Webb should have enough fuel to allow support of science operations for significantly more than a 10-year science lifetime!"

Fast and Spurious

1,323 posts

88 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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andy_s said:
NASA explain: "That deployment was executed automatically after rocket separation, based on a stored command to deploy either when Webb reached a certain attitude toward the Sun or automatically at 33 min. after launch. Because Webb was already in the correct attitude, the array deployed about 1.5 min after separation, or 29 min. after launch."

More good news: "Due to the precision of our launch and our first two mid-course corrections, our team has determined that Webb should have enough fuel to allow support of science operations for significantly more than a 10-year science lifetime!"
Excellent news!
This really was a great Christmas present for mankind.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Excellent news, indeed.

rdjohn

6,185 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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I have yet to read anything that explains if it will eventually go into a very big earth or Sun orbit, or will just travel out of the solar system like Voyager did?

Thanks

MartG

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204 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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It's going to L2 - the Lagrange point on the far side of the Moon

As for what a lagrange point is...Google is your friend

rdjohn

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195 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_T...

Yes, I tried that after posting, a 6-month orbit of earth

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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One of the best explanations/visualisations of Lagrange points I've seen:


annodomini2

6,862 posts

251 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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Looks like they are having issues:


andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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I think they delayed it as they wanted to 'take our time and understand everything we can about the observatory before moving forward'...'Nothing we can learn on the ground is as good as analysing the [JWST] when it's up and running - opportunity for learning everything on baseline operations'. [NASA]

Fingers x'ed anyway...

MartG

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20,682 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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According to the online monitoring the sunshield deployment phase has been extended by a day, so tensioning will probably happen tomorrow

https://www.jwst.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/where...

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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andy_s said:
I think they delayed it as they wanted to 'take our time and understand everything we can about the observatory before moving forward'...'Nothing we can learn on the ground is as good as analysing the {JWST} when it's up and running - opportunity for learning everything on baseline operations'. {NASA}

Fingers x'ed anyway...
One might argue that there's sod all point in understanding everything we can about a state of deployment that is incomplete.

I suspect there are some people with numbers they didn't want to see currently crapping themselves.

Hopefully not a major issue.

67Dino

3,586 posts

105 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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Einion Yrth said:
andy_s said:
I think they delayed it as they wanted to 'take our time and understand everything we can about the observatory before moving forward'...'Nothing we can learn on the ground is as good as analysing the {JWST} when it's up and running - opportunity for learning everything on baseline operations'. {NASA}

Fingers x'ed anyway...
One might argue that there's sod all point in understanding everything we can about a state of deployment that is incomplete.

I suspect there are some people with numbers they didn't want to see currently crapping themselves.

Hopefully not a major issue.
Quite a bit more information here:

https://www.space.com/amp/james-webb-space-telesco...

Looks like one of the points is that the tensioning motors are a bit warmer than planned, so they wanted to reorientate the craft to cool them a bit more before using them. Better safe than sorry…


Edited by 67Dino on Monday 3rd January 22:32

MartG

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Monday 3rd January 2022
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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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MartG said:
That sounds good. I’ve been more nervous about his and the mirror deployment than the launch.

Russ35

2,492 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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All 5 layers complete.

Thats now about 75% of the 344 single point failures overcome.