The science of trebuchets...

The science of trebuchets...

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Bill

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Sunday 18th February 2018
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Anyone know any thing about trebuchets?

I built one with my son over half term and it releases too late so the projectile smacks into the ground about 6m away. The arm is about 1.5m long and the weight is a bit of a mix (bit of an old boat engine, an axe head and a lump hammer...) that weighs about 2.5kg. I didn't use plans, which might have been an error. biggrin



Edited by Bill on Sunday 18th February 17:16

Lynchie999

3,428 posts

154 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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https://youtu.be/Dp7XoUrqMQA

Don't know, but filmed this at Corfe Castle this week in 2x slow mo... 14lbs of football was the projectile, landed at the top of the "green" grass bank!

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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It sounds like it's slowly down too late in the swing. Or maybe the rope is too long.

In other words, it's still trying to accelerate the missile right through it's arc, until it's too late a release.

Bill

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Sunday 18th February 2018
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Lynchie999 said:
https://youtu.be/Dp7XoUrqMQA

Don't know, but filmed this at Corfe Castle this week in 2x slow mo... 14lbs of football was the projectile, landed at the top of the "green" grass bank!
That's what inspired it, we live just down the road.

227bhp

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Bill

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Sunday 18th February 2018
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JonChalk said:
It sounds like it's slowly down too late in the swing. Or maybe the rope is too long.

In other words, it's still trying to accelerate the missile right through it's arc, until it's too late a release.
We've made a better sling since that picture which is shorter. If it's much longer than the pivot point it doesn't accelerate the projectile along the base and just lifts it.

I'm wondering if the uprights need to be taller. scratchchin

Bill

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Sunday 18th February 2018
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Obviously it's tempting just to add more weight... biggrin

Kccv23highliftcam

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76 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Meh...



Bill

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Sunday 18th February 2018
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227bhp said:
That's cheating! But more effective than my search, thanks. It looks like it's the pin angle. Shame it's dark now. frown

NoahsPark

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75 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Bill said:
227bhp said:
That's cheating! But more effective than my search, thanks. It looks like it's the pin angle. Shame it's dark now. frown
Where do you live? I'm just asking so that I can fortify my house if it's near me.

cymtriks

4,560 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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I built one

There are some medieval pictures on the internet and there is also a mathematical study of the optimum dimensions.

For the best results you need:
main pivot to where the weight hangs = 1 unit of length
main pivot to where the sling attaches = 4 units of length
length of sling = 4 units of length
weight hanging point to centre of weight = 1 unit of length
Wheels on the carriage

The wheels and the articulated weight help the weight to fall vertically.

You will need to adjust the sling release to optimise the release timing.