This sums up the pointless public space race

This sums up the pointless public space race

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Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Not ignoring anything.

The expertise and knowledge will be shared, of that I have no doubt. I actually dioscussed this very topic with a chap from Virgin Orbital at the Farnborough air show in July.

Toaster

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2,939 posts

193 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Toltec said:
The same argument applies to building a car like the Evora, it consumes more resources and effort than a simpler, less powerful, more utlitarian design. If you ignore that cycling would be the most efficient mode of personal transport then by your ideals there should be only a single design of personal car being manufactured at any time.

Keep banging the rocks together guys.
Really ? It’s as wasteful as any other vehicle out there. It’s just a means of transport

Sitting in a rocket being popped up to near space and back down in a few minutes and the vehicle has no other purpose what a vanity project that is, whooo hooo I’m weightless for a few minuets look at Meeeeee...... and your saying that is progress give me a break.

Toaster

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Friday 26th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Not ignoring anything.

The expertise and knowledge will be shared, of that I have no doubt. I actually dioscussed this very topic with a chap from Virgin Orbital at the Farnborough air show in July.
you have no doubt but no proof. The knowledge to do a lot of this is known and as NASA also shares a lot of the R&D if Mc Eric enterprise wanted to build a UK launch system for Cube sats you will find the technology, research and engineers capable to help build such a vehicle. My personal view which is held by others is that public space tourisem is an empty vacuous quest.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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What more can I say.

I spoke to a guy from the company. If you chose not to believe what I am saying and what he said to me, that's your business.

It just proves to me that the most pointless aspect of this thread is trying to debate with you.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Toaster said:
Toltec said:
The same argument applies to building a car like the Evora, it consumes more resources and effort than a simpler, less powerful, more utlitarian design. If you ignore that cycling would be the most efficient mode of personal transport then by your ideals there should be only a single design of personal car being manufactured at any time.

Keep banging the rocks together guys.
Really ? It’s as wasteful as any other vehicle out there. It’s just a means of transport
bks. It’s a big engined sports car. It’s an objectively selfish decision just like anything else someone buys they don’t need. Don’t kid yourself it’s not a massive waste of money and resources.

Tempest_5

603 posts

197 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I'm bored now.

Should I come up with lots of new threads to swamp this part of the forum so this conversation disappears off the bottom of the page?

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Tempest_5 said:
I'm bored now.

Should I come up with lots of new threads to swamp this part of the forum so this conversation disappears off the bottom of the page?
Yes please - as long as they are science related of course.

Toaster

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Sunday 28th October 2018
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p1stonhead said:
bks. It’s a big engined sports car. It’s an objectively selfish decision just like anything else someone buys they don’t need. Don’t kid yourself it’s not a massive waste of money and resources.
Hmmm well it’s standard industry available components such as a Toyota camery engine it’s all just teeeked I. The way lotus do. But I will agree your argument stands for every form of motor vehicle. But getting back to the OP and as I have stated I have no issue with space exploration or research but things such as Virgin Galactic we can’t even sort out a supersonic airliner or a space shuttle we have gone backwards in many ways.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Gross negativity again

Anything positive to say?

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
bks. It’s a big engined sports car. It’s an objectively selfish decision just like anything else someone buys they don’t need. Don’t kid yourself it’s not a massive waste of money and resources.
Hmmm well it’s standard industry available components such as a Toyota camery engine it’s all just teeeked I. The way lotus do. But I will agree your argument stands for every form of motor vehicle. But getting back to the OP and as I have stated I have no issue with space exploration or research but things such as Virgin Galactic we can’t even sort out a supersonic airliner or a space shuttle we have gone backwards in many ways.
Please just shut up your absolute bore. Every single point you have put across has been hypocritical or absolute nonsense.

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 28th October 08:52

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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He is a bore, isn't he.

He has added nothing original to a single point he has made for at least two years. He's obviously got a massive bee in his bonnet on this topic and just won't leave it alone. In fact, I would put it in the "obsessive" category.

Toaster

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Sunday 28th October 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Please just shut up your absolute bore. Every single point you have put across has been hypocritical or absolute nonsense.

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 28th October 08:52
Oh dear, you seem to be getting upset and cant form a debate around the OP so reduced to insults, if you find the subject boring or cannot stand an alternate view, be kind to yourself ignore the post.

Toaster

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Sunday 28th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
He is a bore, isn't he.

He has added nothing original to a single point he has made for at least two years. He's obviously got a massive bee in his bonnet on this topic and just won't leave it alone. In fact, I would put it in the "obsessive" category.
Make your minds up guys either i'm Hypocritical or stating the same thing lol. Yes Eric I do hold this particular view I do understand you support public space flight which is some thing that hasn't changed so we have consistent agreement. so what s the problem posting a link to an article that sums up "the pointless public space race?"

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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One word - "pointless".

Just like your posts.

Toaster

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Sunday 28th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
One word - "pointless".Just like your posts.
Its a view my friend but not a true one

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

84 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Exploration is part of being human. I get that some people just want to stay at home and not change anything. change is scary. but where would we be without the drive to explore?

Toaster

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Polite M135 driver said:
Exploration is part of being human. I get that some people just want to stay at home and not change anything. change is scary. but where would we be without the drive to explore?
indeed it is https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/space-robots/en/ and of course using Virtual Reality we can move the experience to the person rather than the person to the experience.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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For those that want it. Are you trying to deny first hand experience to those who want that?


p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Sunday 28th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
For those that want it. Are you trying to deny first hand experience to those who want that?
Because only Toaster can spend his money on ‘vacuous’ things laugh

Toaster

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Monday 29th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
For those that want it. Are you trying to deny first hand experience to those who want that?
biggrin well I think Douglas Adams had it right: Colonising A New Planet - The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy - BBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogcQ7Z4bh5w

I would not want to deny the Hairdressers, telephone Sanitizers etc their "right" to experiance it wink