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Athlon

5,020 posts

207 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Athlon said:
Did it make it? telemetry has frozen after it seemed to drop about 100,000 ft and no mention of the second burn happening ?
Yes then frown bugger

mikey_b

1,822 posts

46 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Athlon said:
Athlon said:
Did it make it? telemetry has frozen after it seemed to drop about 100,000 ft and no mention of the second burn happening ?
Yes then frown bugger
Second burn was scheduled for about 40 minutes after the first, so there was always going to be a long gap.

untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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livestream cut off so guess it's failed completely.

ecsrobin

17,146 posts

166 months

DeejRC

5,821 posts

83 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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It’s a slipshod amateur operation done shoe string special. It’s almost amusing, it’s that poor.

Fusion777

2,246 posts

49 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Sounds like an embarrassing affair. Shame as I was excited about this yesterday.

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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I agree the coverage was poor but a lot of people poured heart and soul (along with years of work) into the launcher and the lost satellites.

I respect and admire the efforts of all those involved.

Space isn't easy so I prefer to cut them some slack rather than revel in the failure.

The Russians and the Americans didn't have easy journeys into space when they started out either.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Rocket launch failures are not that unusual, especially when a rocket is still early in its development life. So far they have had two failures out of six launches - which is not that bad for this stage in their operations.

It looks like there was failure in the second stage. In other words, it didn't develop sufficient thrust to increase the velocioty to 17,500 mph whioch is what is required to place an object in low earth orbit.

Claims that this is somehow an "amateur" operations are crass and ignorant.

wolfracesonic

7,027 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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So it’s not gone any better than when they tried to launch that Reliant a few years ago on Top Gear.

DeejRC

5,821 posts

83 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Rocket launch failures are not that unusual, especially when a rocket is still early in its development life. So far they have had two failures out of six launches - which is not that bad for this stage in their operations.

It looks like there was failure in the second stage. In other words, it didn't develop sufficient thrust to increase the velocioty to 17,500 mph whioch is what is required to place an object in low earth orbit.

Claims that this is somehow an "amateur" operations are crass and ignorant.
No Eric they aren’t. It IS an amateur operation they are running and on, at best, a luke warm budget. I’m sure you know best though.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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In this case, I can safely say I know more than you do. Whether it's "best" or not is irrelevant.

Perhaps you can state where you got your information from regarding your assertion that it is "an amateur" effort and maybe then I might put more credence on your claim.

ChevronB19

5,803 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Rocket launch failures are not that unusual, especially when a rocket is still early in its development life. So far they have had two failures out of six launches - which is not that bad for this stage in their operations.

It looks like there was failure in the second stage. In other words, it didn't develop sufficient thrust to increase the velocioty to 17,500 mph whioch is what is required to place an object in low earth orbit.

Claims that this is somehow an "amateur" operations are crass and ignorant.
Agreed.

V41LEY

2,895 posts

239 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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On the bright side, at least it’s keeping a redundant 747 airborne.

Squadrone Rosso

2,760 posts

148 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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No longer a virgin……..

redback911

2,729 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Boo, disappointing to see the first Western Europe launch fail. My current research focus is control technology for free space optics used on inter-space links for LEO and VLEO satellites. We've been working with some of the satellite vendors who were part of the payload - which included ESA GPS, TUATARA / ETCO imaging, IoT/M2M comms, ionosphere monitoring and some UK military hardware. Most (if not all) of the satellites will be insured but it won't cover the full development cost and it will delay various projects that build on the capabilities these new satellites nodes would have provided.

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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I'm sure it's very disappointing. However, onwards and upwards (hopefully).

mikey_b

1,822 posts

46 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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It’s depressing that even in the science subforum, there is a number of people doing the usual scoffing and sneering thing after someone tries to do something very hard, but not quite pulling it off. I’d put good money on most if not all of them never having even tried to do anything remotely of this level of difficulty.

When you do something that doesn’t quite work, you learn from your mistakes and try again. On that basis, failures like this are still useful work.

Digga

40,361 posts

284 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Eric Mc said:
I'm sure it's very disappointing. However, onwards and upwards (hopefully).
It's embarrassing when you can't get it up. Especially when performing to a global audience. One can only imagine. (5 was my largest audience, but that is story I am not recounting.)

Innuendos aside, it's a great shame, but I hope the problems can be ironed out and the program move forward. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it. I think it's a critically important thing for the UK to be participating in, along with the other international space efforts.

skeeterm5

3,364 posts

189 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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That must be heartbreaking for everybody who worked on it, especially the people involved with the satellites.

Let’s hope they can learn from it and push on.

Halmyre

11,219 posts

140 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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The 747 is quite a tough old bird but how will it stand up to this new role? Or is it not doing anything too strenuous?