Mars inSight Mission

Mars inSight Mission

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Eric Mc

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122,031 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th November 2018
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Just a heads up to remind people that this mission is scheduled to land on Mars on November 26.

Beati Dogu

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139 months

Tuesday 20th November 2018
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Yes, cool. I hope it makes it down OK.

They plan to land it relatively close to the Curiosity lander - about 600 kilometers (373 miles) away.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Wednesday 21st November 2018
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Thanks for the heads up Eric. Will try to watch this on NASA tv.

Beati Dogu

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139 months

Wednesday 21st November 2018
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Here's some NASA InSight hype:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S42s1s3U77A


They want it to land on the Elysium Planitia, which is just north of the Martian equator. It's flatter than a Walmart car park in Kansas apparently. laugh

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 21st November 2018
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They aren't looking for dramatic scenery or spectacular geology on this mission. They want a nice smooth surface that they can set down on and do some serious drilling. It will be the deepest drilling done on another planetary body since the Apollo astronauts took core samples on the moon.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 22nd November 2018
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NASA briefing here. It's best advised to ignore the typically moronic utterances in the comments section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzBkCVGwWsg

DeejRC

5,793 posts

82 months

Thursday 22nd November 2018
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Que- this Insight?


Beati Dogu

8,891 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd November 2018
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Heat shield, then parachute, then propulsive landing.

See the video I posted above.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 22nd November 2018
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No need for a sky crane on this one as it is a relatively small lander.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd November 2018
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RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd November 2018
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That animation is beautiful.


Nice summary of the mission from the Oatmeal
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/insight


Beati Dogu

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139 months

Friday 23rd November 2018
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^ Thanks for that.

They were talking about this mission on Radio 4 yesterday and mentioned that there's only a 40% success rate for landing things on Mars.

Eric Mc

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Friday 23rd November 2018
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Not if you only look at NASA's missions. NASA has a pretty good success rate. It's the other agencies that have fared less well.

Beati Dogu

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Saturday 24th November 2018
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Very true. I like your optimism.

The Russian's haven't had a lot of luck & the European Space Agency has a 2:0 failure rate - Beagle 2 and Schiaparelli.



InSight is essentially repeating the landing method that NASA's Viking landers used in the mid-70s.

I remember seeing those amazing pictures of Mars from the Viking missions in National Geographic as a kid. I wish I still had it.

Eric Mc

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Saturday 24th November 2018
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InSight is actually a developed version of the Mars Phoenix lander which successfully landed on Mars back in 2008. It uses the basic "bus" of the Phoenix but with a different set of experiments on board. Phoenix was designed to sample the Mars environment near its polar regions. InSight will be landing closer to the equator and is primarilly a geological and geophysical mission.

NASA sent its first probes to Mars in 1964, so it has a very long track record of sending missions to the planet.
From memory,the only NASA Mars lander that failed during the landing phase was Mars Polar Lander back in 1999. All their other landers have made it safely on to the surface -

Viking 1
Viking 2
Mars Pathfinder
Phoenix
Opportunity
Spirit
Curiosity


Beati Dogu

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139 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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The NASA TV Broadcast of the landing is on Monday 26th November (7.00 pm - 8.30 pm UK time)

The post-landing press conference = No earlier than 10.00 pm UK time


https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#...

..or a hosted broadcast with Everyday Astronaut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRj3la_i9a4


The entry and landing takes about 7 minutes.

Edit: it takes just over 8 minutes for a radio signal to travel between Mars & Earth currently.

Here’s a breakdown of the landing procedure:

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/20...

Edited by Beati Dogu on Monday 26th November 00:24

andy_s

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259 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Bump

Eric Mc

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Monday 26th November 2018
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andy_s said:
Bump
I hope that's not a prediction.

andy_s

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259 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Eric Mc said:
andy_s said:
Bump
I hope that's not a prediction.
biggrin

Caruso

7,436 posts

256 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Looking forward to this. An exciting landing at a sensible time of day.