Dark Side of the moon

Dark Side of the moon

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nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Cobnapint said:
audidoody said:
Dog Star said:
Pistonheads: cliquey one-upmanship matters.

It reminds me of the plane people - got to get as many acronyms and buzzwords in just to show you're one of the crowd - "yeah, I was flying out of LAX, tuned left and had status as a diamond PAX but then the VP got VD and I got a flame out blah blah"..
I don't know what you mean. It's perfectly ordinary banter, Squiffy. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how's-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.
Precisely.
At a guess our canine/ astro fellow poster is suffering withdrawal symptoms. While seated in economy.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Some nice video footage of the landing just released.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjyf4ANGIo

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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You can see it stopping the descent at intervals so it can assess the nature of the terrain below it.

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Very nice video indeed !

More pics released

Rover from lander


Lander from rover


Panorama from lander


Polar projection from lander

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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ash73 said:
That wonky solar panel upsets my OCD.
Hopefully, the Chinese space agency has equally OCD people in important places so they can fund a manned mission to go and straighten it out.

Register1

2,140 posts

94 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Absolutely fantastic video and pictures.

Well done/.

Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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ash73 said:
That wonky solar panel upsets my OCD.
The technician responsible is now employed in a salt mine somewhere.

kuro

1,621 posts

119 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Great footage. I wonder if the conspiracy theory nutters will care to notice the similarities with the Apollo landings. Minimal dust thrown up on landing, no star's in the sky and the identical landscape

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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kuro said:
Great footage. I wonder if the conspiracy theory nutters will care to notice the similarities with the Apollo landings. Minimal dust thrown up on landing, no star's in the sky and the identical landscape
There were quite a few similarities with the whole descent and landing of the craft compared to the Apollo Lunar Module. You could even see a little "shimmy" movement as it wobbled from side to side slightly - just like you see on Apollo landing footage.

kuro

1,621 posts

119 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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Eric Mc said:
kuro said:
Great footage. I wonder if the conspiracy theory nutters will care to notice the similarities with the Apollo landings. Minimal dust thrown up on landing, no star's in the sky and the identical landscape
There were quite a few similarities with the whole descent and landing of the craft compared to the Apollo Lunar Module. You could even see a little "shimmy" movement as it wobbled from side to side slightly - just like you see on Apollo landing footage.
Yes, been watching a lot of Apollo footage recently and it all looked so familiar.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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The Chang'e lander does seem to have followed fairly closely some design features of the Grumman Lunar Module descent stage. For all we know, they could be using it as (say) a 1/3 scale model of a full size manned lunar lander that they are designing behind the scenes.

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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ash73 said:
It cuts the engine and free falls the last 4m, hence the unsubtle touchdown.
That is some footage and the first time I can recall seeing the actual feet of a lander hitting the surface. I love the little pause to verify the LZ suitability too.

The engine must have been cut to idle for the last few metres, you can see some surface disturbance and image distortion from the heat a couple of seconds before touch down.

A great achievement no question. I still don't trust the fkers though.

Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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ash73 said:
It cuts the engine and free falls the last 4m, hence the unsubtle touchdown.
The Apollo landers did the same as well to minimise dust being kicked up and causing various problems, although in its case it was only about 5 or 6 feet.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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By the simple expedient of having long wire probes dangling from three of the four legs. Once the probe hit the surface, the engine thrust was cut off allowing the LM to drop the last few feet. You can see the probes in this schematic.


Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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With all the high tech direction and ranging equipment on board this state of the art lander, why would you need to dangle things off the ends of the feet to tell you where the surface was..? Sounds ridiculous.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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I don't think anybody said modern landers did need such devices. It was obviously a worthwhile thing to do over 50 years ago when the Lunar Module was being designed.

However, it is simple technology and pretty reliable, so there is no reason to dismiss it even today.

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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On the LM it was a manual intervention to shut down the engine once the contact light illuminated, triggered by one of the three probes touching the surface.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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You actually here Buzz Aldrin call out "Contact light" in the audio of the Apollo 11 landing -

https://www.nasa.gov/62283main_landing.wav


MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Seed aboard the lander have sprouted

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-468735...

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Great, we have now polluted Mars ffs !