NASA "Hidden Figure" during Space Race dies at 101

NASA "Hidden Figure" during Space Race dies at 101

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Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Precisely - although some of the conventional views held by planetary scientists and astronomers in the 1950s and 1960s who came down on Velikovsky like a ton of bricks have also been found to be way off the mark too - swamp covered Venus anyone?

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?
Are you referring to the earlier mentioned speaker or Eric Mc?

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Or Mr Velikovsky.

If it is he - here's some info on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky

Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Precisely - although some of the conventional views held by planetary scientists and astronomers in the 1950s and 1960s who came down on Velikovsky like a ton of bricks have also been found to be way off the mark too - swamp covered Venus anyone?
Fair enough, but I'd say that was mere speculation and at least they had Venus staying in one place and not careering about the heavens like a crazed billiard ball.

Roofless Toothless

5,662 posts

132 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I have some sympathy with Velikovsky, even though his theories, taken individually, are crackpot.

I started studying geology in the mid sixties, and it was a very different science from what it is today. The first thing we learned about was the theory of uniformitarianism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism

Put simply, the same gradual processes that can be observed operating on the earth today, given sufficient time, can produce the strata and formations that we see around us. The great 19th century geologists, Hutton, Playfair and Lyell, were freed by the rejection of Biblical catastrophic concepts, like the Flood, and the succession of Old Testament generations, to conjecture much longer spans of geological time.

But during the course of my education, new work was emerging that revealed that indeed some catastrophic events had occurred that changed the course of geological history. Examples might be the extinction events that put pay to seemingly stable biodiversity, perhaps by comet strikes, or major volcanic eruptions, or the destruction of Doggerland in the recent post-glacial past.

Today, the pendulum has swung back from the strictly uniformitarian view of geological history, to an understanding of the role of brief periods of major change. Velikovsky, for all his shortcomings, was a voice pointing out that the occasional catastrophe had to be be taken into account when reconstructing the Earth's past.

DeejRC

5,797 posts

82 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I do enjoy these threads...
You lot would be sorely disappointed with the reality of the space industry 😂

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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DeejRC said:
I do enjoy these threads...
You lot would be sorely disappointed with the reality of the space industry ??
Not sure what you mean. Are you referring to the less than robust space endeavors of today?

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?
Are you referring to the earlier mentioned speaker or Eric Mc?
Erik [sic] Mc smile

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?
Are you referring to the earlier mentioned speaker or Eric Mc?
Eri [sic] Mc smile
Ah, Eric is a very long timer here; a six figure poster. He is the oracle of all things flight, both below and above orbit. He is a deep thinker and the world champion of putting nutter moon landing hoaxers in their proper place. smile All of this while remaining humble. Tough task but Eric pulls it off.

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?
Are you referring to the earlier mentioned speaker or Eric Mc?
Eri [sic] Mc smile
Ah, Eric is a very long timer here; a six figure poster. He is the oracle of all things flight, both below and above orbit. He is a deep thinker and the world champion of putting nutter moon landing hoaxers in their proper place. smile All of this while remaining humble. Tough task but Eric pulls it off.
So Eric (hello Eric) is in the industry of acedemia and/or flight? Also, six figure poster? I hadn't even clocked that, blimey.

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
bolidemichael said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
That's the essence of science - being sceptical.
You are correct sir. Just poking fun. smile
I think you underestimate your contributions in these events. I’m with the other poster, we need to up your bookings. smile
I'm not part of the cognoscenti. Who is this chap, that is so admired on this thread?
Are you referring to the earlier mentioned speaker or Eric Mc?
Eri [sic] Mc smile
Ah, Eric is a very long timer here; a six figure poster. He is the oracle of all things flight, both below and above orbit. He is a deep thinker and the world champion of putting nutter moon landing hoaxers in their proper place. smile All of this while remaining humble. Tough task but Eric pulls it off.
So Eric (hello Eric) is in the industry of acedemia and/or flight? Also, six figure poster? I hadn't even clocked that, blimey.
I'm not sure of Eric's "industry". Perhaps the knowledge industry? Which often ties in with the retired industry? biggrin

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Halmyre said:
Eric Mc said:
Precisely - although some of the conventional views held by planetary scientists and astronomers in the 1950s and 1960s who came down on Velikovsky like a ton of bricks have also been found to be way off the mark too - swamp covered Venus anyone?
Fair enough, but I'd say that was mere speculation and at least they had Venus staying in one place and not careering about the heavens like a crazed billiard ball.
In this case, two wrongs most definitely did not make a right.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jimbeaux said:
I'm not sure of Eric's "industry". Perhaps the knowledge industry? Which often ties in with the retired industry? biggrin
I'm an accountant (yes - sad I know). And not yet retired (even sadder).

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Lolz. Fair enough and fair play to you Eric.

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Eric Mc said:
I'm an accountant (yes - sad I know). And not yet retired (even sadder).
That’s fine. At least your hobbies are sexy! smile

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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I wouldn't go that far. They aren't very effective as subjects for chat-up lines.

Jimbeaux

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Friday 28th February 2020
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Eric Mc said:
I wouldn't go that far. They aren't very effective as subjects for chat-up lines.
Ha! OK, I will give you that. smile

DeejRC

5,797 posts

82 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Eric most definitely isn’t in the industry!
And what I meant Jim was that the reality of working inside said industry is much less exciting that these threads imagine it to be. An awful lot of what gets said in these threads is also comically incorrect.

Jimbeaux

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231 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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DeejRC said:
Eric most definitely isn’t in the industry!
And what I meant Jim was that the reality of working inside said industry is much less exciting that these threads imagine it to be. An awful lot of what gets said in these threads is also comically incorrect.
Much on PH is comically incorrect, on many subjects. I assume, however, You are referring to aeronautics and space flight?