Discussion
mike74 said:
That does all sound reasonably plausible although, again, I have to ask why would a stealth airship be deemed so technologically important that the file on it needs to remain classified for over 80 years?
That mock up photo seems to considerably exaggerate the size and scale of the 'rear stabiliser', which in the actual photo is barely evident and could just be a pixilation blur.
Also didn't the eyewitnesses account include a description of the object 'shooting away vertically at tremendous speed', which, if accurate and truthful, isn't a typical flight characteristic of an airship.
The vertical speed thing did make me doubt it's an airship tbh, but imo it's more plausible than anti gravity tech. I'd imagine a thruster boosted airship would rip itself to shreds pretty quickly though, in reality. That mock up photo seems to considerably exaggerate the size and scale of the 'rear stabiliser', which in the actual photo is barely evident and could just be a pixilation blur.
Also didn't the eyewitnesses account include a description of the object 'shooting away vertically at tremendous speed', which, if accurate and truthful, isn't a typical flight characteristic of an airship.
My only guess for it's reclassification would be either, A) it's incredibly exotic technology, or B) it's existing technology being used in a way that requires a huge amount of deniability.
I'm still eagerly waiting on the day something like this happens to befall a nature photographer with a high end DSLR and a tripod.
BorkBorkBork said:
So, if a species of intelligent lizard people have been living and thriving beneath the earths surface for tens of millions of years, is it crazy to imagine they have technology far in advance of ours? And this maybe explains the many sightings of UFO’s emerging from and disappearing into large bodies of water.
In this scenario you don’t have to imagine life arising on another planet, a race of aliens having to overcome the impossible interstellar distances or any kind of inter dimensional travel.
Yes, on the face of it, it’s a crazy theory. But it’s far more plausible than anything extraterrestrial.
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.In this scenario you don’t have to imagine life arising on another planet, a race of aliens having to overcome the impossible interstellar distances or any kind of inter dimensional travel.
Yes, on the face of it, it’s a crazy theory. But it’s far more plausible than anything extraterrestrial.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
So, if they aren't human then the possibilities are
1. Interstellar aliens
2. Underground/ underwater lizard race
3. Timetravellers
4. Interdimensional visitors.
3 is allowed under special relativity I believe, as is 1. Worm holes etc.
2 seems plausible given the great unmapped depths of the oceans, but if they are there, they can be very populous.
4 is there any credible science about multiple realities/universes etc. Or just science fiction.
All seem entirely implausible and plausible at the same time.
1. Interstellar aliens
2. Underground/ underwater lizard race
3. Timetravellers
4. Interdimensional visitors.
3 is allowed under special relativity I believe, as is 1. Worm holes etc.
2 seems plausible given the great unmapped depths of the oceans, but if they are there, they can be very populous.
4 is there any credible science about multiple realities/universes etc. Or just science fiction.
All seem entirely implausible and plausible at the same time.
QJumper said:
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
That's a bit unfair really, where would the handbag industry be without them?Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
QJumper said:
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
As the late, great Douglas Adams wrote:Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
So Long and Thanks for All the Fish said:
Man has always assumed that he is more intelligent than dolphins because he has achieved so much - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But, conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons.
mickk said:
QJumper said:
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
That's a bit unfair really, where would the handbag industry be without them?Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
mickk said:
QJumper said:
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
That's a bit unfair really, where would the handbag industry be without them?Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
Not sure if it's genuine Croc skin though.
Fabric said:
My only guess for it's reclassification would be either, A) it's incredibly exotic technology, or B) it's existing technology being used in a way that requires a huge amount of deniability.
I suspect it's just that there's more paperwork involved in declassifying it than leaving it as is, and no one can be arsed.Or they're just trolling conspiracy theorists...
QJumper said:
BorkBorkBork said:
So, if a species of intelligent lizard people have been living and thriving beneath the earths surface for tens of millions of years, is it crazy to imagine they have technology far in advance of ours? And this maybe explains the many sightings of UFO’s emerging from and disappearing into large bodies of water.
In this scenario you don’t have to imagine life arising on another planet, a race of aliens having to overcome the impossible interstellar distances or any kind of inter dimensional travel.
Yes, on the face of it, it’s a crazy theory. But it’s far more plausible than anything extraterrestrial.
Totally bonkers, and absolutely implausible.In this scenario you don’t have to imagine life arising on another planet, a race of aliens having to overcome the impossible interstellar distances or any kind of inter dimensional travel.
Yes, on the face of it, it’s a crazy theory. But it’s far more plausible than anything extraterrestrial.
Lizards are notoriously lazy and uninventive. Crocodiles have been around for tens of millions of years and haven't made the slightest effort to invent anything.
And I believe their productivity is directly linked to their cold bloodedness. I think it’s wrong for you to cast such aspersions on Lizards, and I’d be careful. You have to assume it’s only a matter of time until they make themselves known, and they become our overlords (underlords might be more appropriate.). In their eyes, you may have just committed an act of Speciesism.
Also, If they have opted to live closer to the Earth’s core, then their reluctance to do anything until they’ve sunbathed for half the day, goes away. I expect they are up bright and early, and inventing their tits off by 9am. How else could they come up with the tic tac?
Edited by BorkBorkBork on Monday 29th August 04:29
BorkBorkBork said:
Maybe the crocodile is to the Lizard People what chimps are to humans?
And I believe their productivity is directly linked to their cold bloodedness. I think it’s wrong for you to cast such aspersions on Lizards, and I’d be careful. You have to assume it’s only a matter of time until they make themselves known, and they become our overlords (underlords might be more appropriate.). In their eyes, you may have just committed an act of Speciesism.
Also, If they have opted to live closer to the Earth’s core, then their reluctance to do anything until they’ve sunbathed for half the day, goes away. I expect they are up bright and early, and inventing their tits off by 9am. How else could they come up with the tic tac?
I was with you until you mentioned 'Tits' Now your idea seems silly.And I believe their productivity is directly linked to their cold bloodedness. I think it’s wrong for you to cast such aspersions on Lizards, and I’d be careful. You have to assume it’s only a matter of time until they make themselves known, and they become our overlords (underlords might be more appropriate.). In their eyes, you may have just committed an act of Speciesism.
Also, If they have opted to live closer to the Earth’s core, then their reluctance to do anything until they’ve sunbathed for half the day, goes away. I expect they are up bright and early, and inventing their tits off by 9am. How else could they come up with the tic tac?
Edited by mickk on Monday 29th August 07:26
I wonder what the motivation is to add the following to the INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 is?
https://www.congress.gov/117/crpt/srpt132/CRPT-117...
3rd Paragraph.
https://www.congress.gov/117/crpt/srpt132/CRPT-117...
3rd Paragraph.
Could we be on the verge of disclosure?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-6462006...
Or is it more smoke and mirrors from the military?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-6462006...
Or is it more smoke and mirrors from the military?
BorkBorkBork said:
Could we be on the verge of disclosure?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-6462006...
Or is it more smoke and mirrors from the military?
Its interesting that China were very quick to say the first balloon was theirs, but was nothing to worry about, just weather, but have been completely silent on this.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-6462006...
Or is it more smoke and mirrors from the military?
NORAD did say that one reason why there has been so many in a few days is they are now paying more attention. So these little ones could have been flying about for ages and no one has noticed.
Fairly certain we will find out its a man made object of some sort rather than little green men
croyde said:
Not happy with the US now blasting at anything suspicious in the skies above.
Isn't that how Captain Scarlett, UFO and many more intergalactic wars were started.
Now you mention it, most of the airborne vehicles in Captain Scarlet and UFO *did* seem to have strings attached to them as well.Isn't that how Captain Scarlett, UFO and many more intergalactic wars were started.
eharding said:
croyde said:
Not happy with the US now blasting at anything suspicious in the skies above.
Isn't that how Captain Scarlett, UFO and many more intergalactic wars were started.
Now you mention it, most of the airborne vehicles in Captain Scarlet and UFO *did* seem to have strings attached to them as well.Isn't that how Captain Scarlett, UFO and many more intergalactic wars were started.
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