UFO Thread

[skwdenyer]

WrekinCrew said:

skwdenyer said:

There are plenty of people queuing-up to say that FTL travel is impossible, because it breaks the laws of physics...

I thought you couldn't travel at the speed of light because there's a 1- v squared / c squared term in the denominator of one of Einstein's mass equations, and the universe would have a divide-by-zero error. But it doesn't say you can't travel faster, the problem is accelerating to over c without actually passing c on the way.

That being so, FTL travel for a human currently at rest is impossible

[996Type]

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-...

Interesting article, why is the US (if it is indeed the case) only allowing the slow release of this type of information now?

I’m cynical towards them, if it was a cover up, why maintain it, and why decide now the time is right to allow the plebs to peek behind the curtain. What’s in it for them?

I read somewhere for example this played into a higher agenda regards a new battle front we needed to face (space), and the UAP subject allowed the money to develop protection against such “threats”.

[Gullwings]

996Type said:

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-...

Interesting article, why is the US (if it is indeed the case) only allowing the slow release of this type of information now?

I’m cynical towards them, if it was a cover up, why maintain it, and why decide now the time is right to allow the plebs to peek behind the curtain. What’s in it for them?

I read somewhere for example this played into a higher agenda regards a new battle front we needed to face (space), and the UAP subject allowed the money to develop protection against such “threats”.

Christ, this is huge news and I haven't seen anything about it anywhere

I'll be following this one closely

[Supernova190188]

Co-written by Leslie Kean too, she’s a pretty respectable journalist. All very interesting how the ufo stuff is starting to come out these past few years from the government.

[gotoPzero]

When a govt meant to be keeping a really big secret tells you about it - then it was either

Never real in the first place.
Are trying to distract you from something else.

Probably both.

The only thing I have found strange in the last 30 years is that we have continued to use conventional propulsion using liquid fuels using lift generating surfaces like wings and rotors.

[RSTurboPaul]

Coming soon... anti-gravity tech based on magnetic field manipulation or the use of liquid mercury spun at high speed?

[Reginald Molehusband]

It's already here as I have asserted several times on PH Mostly in the form of silent black triangular craft.

[NordicCrankShaft]

Maybe Bob Lazar isn't is mental as he's made out.

[Bill]

As I said in the other thread, a website no-one's heard of makes outlandish claims...

And why would a civilisation capable of interstellar flight keep crashing when they arrive at earth anyway???

[anonymous-user]

NordicCrankShaft said:

Maybe Bob Lazar isn't is mental as he's made out.

I think David Charles Grusch will turn out to be the next Bob Lazar.

[skwdenyer]

gotoPzero said:

When a govt meant to be keeping a really big secret tells you about it - then it was either

Never real in the first place.
Are trying to distract you from something else.

Probably both.

The only thing I have found strange in the last 30 years is that we have continued to use conventional propulsion using liquid fuels using lift generating surfaces like wings and rotors.

The only reason this is coming out now is because of the whistleblower provisions of the latest new protective provisions of the latest defense appropriations bill.

The only question for me is whether the Govt allowed that to happen, or had no effective veto power.

[dukeboy749r]

Bill said:

As I said in the other thread, a website no-one's heard of makes outlandish claims...

And why would a civilisation capable of interstellar flight keep crashing when they arrive at earth anyway???

Satnav can be out even here on Earth - and those are relatively small distances.

Imagine Klarg's* satnav - if reliant on 'us' keeping satellites up to date, with regards to 'their' time codes, sheesh.

• Other alien names may be available.

[anonymous-user]

Bill said:

As I said in the other thread, a website no-one's heard of makes outlandish claims...

And why would a civilisation capable of interstellar flight keep crashing when they arrive at earth anyway???

Maybe their planet is made of an incredibly lightweight substance and they don't have anywhere near the same amount of gravity as we do.... and when they arrive, they approach the surface of Earth, gravity begins to pull their craft towards the ground and they can't stop it, as their craft was never designed to provide lift that would overcome such gravitational force.

I'm just kidding.

I agree with you Bill, it's just a bunch of outlandish claims issued to a no-name website. As I said above, this bloke clearly wants to be the next Bob Lazar.

[Bill]

Lord Marylebone said:

I'm just kidding.

You had me going for a moment!

[Scabutz]

Bill said:

And why would a civilisation capable of interstellar flight keep crashing when they arrive at earth anyway???

Also why would they bother coming here. Its a minor rock orbiting an unimpressive star.

If there is another civilisation out there there must be millions so it would be pure chance that ours is the place they choose to visit.

[skwdenyer]

Scabutz said:

If there is another civilisation out there there must be millions so it would be pure chance that ours is the place they choose to visit.

Interesting logical leap. How do you figure that, if there is 1 other, there must be millions of others?

[Scabutz]

skwdenyer said:

Scabutz said:

If there is another civilisation out there there must be millions so it would be pure chance that ours is the place they choose to visit.

Interesting logical leap. How do you figure that, if there is 1 other, there must be millions of others?

Ok its a bit of a simplistic assumption, but there are hundreds of billions of galaxies with billions of starts in each. If you take the assumption that intelligent life on Earth is not a total fluke then if it can happen somewhere else, it can happen many times in many of the other possible locations.

Of course maybe it was a total fluke, may that fluke is so rare its only happened in a small number or cases or even only in one, but given the scale of everything I believe it has happened in lots of places.

I dont believe they have flown here in their spacecraft though

[skwdenyer]

Bill said:

As I said in the other thread, a website no-one's heard of makes outlandish claims...

This isn't the first on-the-record claim recently from somebody with actual access and a position to know. See the link I posted a few days ago where the former programme director for an actual relevant programme appeared to make the same claim.

What's interesting is that a number of relatively serious people are attaching their names to this. What happens next will be interesting. If this story doesn't pan out, the "disclosure movement" may be dealt a crippling setback: even with Congressional whistleblower protection, nothing surfaces, and a bunch of credible people see their reputations go down in flames.

If you're fully down the rabbit hole, you may believe that's the objective, of course

[Catatafish]

gotoPzero said:

When a govt meant to be keeping a really big secret tells you about it - then it was either

Never real in the first place.
Are trying to distract you from something else.

Probably both.

The only thing I have found strange in the last 30 years is that we have continued to use conventional propulsion using liquid fuels using lift generating surfaces like wings and rotors.

There's something brewing in the FBI-Biden bribery scandal investigation.

[Bill]

skwdenyer said:

The other interesting thing is the apparent admission from Colm Kelleher (former programme director of an appreciable - $22m - US Govt-funded UFO X-files-type programme, it seem) that the US Govt is in possession of downed UFOs (listen from this point in the interview - the key question is at 1:16:30 or so.

He can certainly waffle. And he's bigged the programme up since he talked about it here: https://www.newstalk.com/news/meet-the-irishman-wh...

But the question is, would the outsider (ie non-military/government) director of a (relative) 2-bit photo and video analysis programme have been given access to the super secret alien st?