Wheel stuck on hub: help.

[TooMany2cvs]

CraigyMc said:

IanCress said:

requires a little bravery, is to loosen the wheel nuts by a few turns, then go for a slow drive down the street which will hopefully release the wheel.

The car is worth about 10K. I'd prefer to avoid this if possible.

You won't kill it. You won't do any damage. You're not doing 100 miles at motorway speed. You literally just need to drive about 10m. If it's REALLY stuck, do a bit of a swervey-wiggle to put some lateral force on.

[ManFromDelmonte]

CraigyMc said:

Lowering the car onto the wheel with the bolts already removed - interesting. I bet that'll work!

Cheers

Craig

Not removed, loosened...LOOSENED.

If that fails, just roll the car forward a bit and hit the brakes (again with all the nuts LOOSENED)

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

I think you'll just have to angle grind it off...it's the only way to be sure.


HTH.

[alangla]

Robatr0n said:

Targarama said:

Just let it down off the jack with the bolts on loose. That should crack the joint.

This is what I've done in the past. Far safer than some of these other suggested methods too!

This, plus moving up & down the driveway slowly, weaving as much as you can from side to side - the sideways forces should crack the joint. This works best on fronts, but also appears to work pretty well on rears as well. You won't need to travel at anything over 1-2mph for this.

[andy-xr]

I use the jack handle to give it a whack on the g'f's KA when changing the wheels, bouncing it off the kerb with the nuts loosened didnt help, but a long jack handle with a bit of clout moved it enough that I could shake the wheel side to side to start it coming loose

[McSam]

CraigyMc said:

I'm quite a bit smaller than the last time you saw me - getting in shape to fit in an F2 cockpit amongst other things.

Lowering the car onto the wheel with the bolts already removed - interesting. I bet that'll work!

Cheers

Craig

Ah, I see! Nice work if you can get it, how has that come about? In fact, feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail your thread further..

As the man from Delmonte says above, only do this with the bolts loosened, not totally removed!

[Joe5y]

curlie467 said:

Put the wheel nuts/bolts on loosely and drive up and down the drive/road, this should do it.

Don't do this! Highly dangerous not to mention running the risk of shearing bolts!

[hotchy]

Kick the thing hard. Stop being a we lassy and give it some wellie.

[jpp]

Targarama said:

Just let it down off the jack with the bolts on loose. That should crack the joint.

Works for me every year coppaslip or not. You're being too gentle on letting the jack down if it doesn't come off when you heel/mallet the tyre wall at the top or bottom afterwards. I'm slightly taller than you and not much heavier, grunt is not required.

[heebeegeetee]

A length of 4 x 2, use the weight of that and hit the wheel end on from behind the wheel if that makes sense. The swing and mass of the wood is better than a mallet and the fact its wood means it doesn't matter if you hit tyre or rim, no damage will be done. Worth having the wheel nuts still on but loose, so the rim doesn't come off and do damage.

[richarda0109]

Craig - is it off yet!

a bit of 4 x 2 and the rubber mallet or club / sledge hammer

Let us know when its off?

[Hub]

Just drive it backwards and forwards a bit with loose nuts as said. WOrked for me when I was struggling with all other methods!

[Sump]

Easier to use the weight of the car to crack it off.

[CrutyRammers]

Hub said:

Just drive it backwards and forwards a bit with loose nuts as said. WOrked for me when I was struggling with all other methods!

Safest, best and easiest way. 5 yards back and forth will do it, nothing major.
And don't mention copperslip on the flanges...you'll awaken the wrath of Mr. Muppet

[AndySpecD]

CrutyRammers said:

Safest, best and easiest way. 5 yards back and forth will do it, nothing major.
And don't mention copperslip on the flanges...you'll awaken the wrath of Mr. Muppet

This, and if it's really stuck try stamping on the brakes to free it off. Only need to be travelling walking pace so really isn't dangerous (wheel nuts/bolts undone perhaps one revoloution).

[blueg33]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

I think you'll just have to angle grind it off...it's the only way to be sure.


HTH.

I am personally in favour of dynamite, half a stick is usually enough to remove all 4 wheels without even undoing the bolts. Why mess about?

[TooMany2cvs]

blueg33 said:

I am personally in favour of dynamite, half a stick is usually enough to remove all 4 wheels without even undoing the bolts. Why mess about?

You were only supposed to blow the bloody wheels off...

[scarble]

I'm afraid I can't offer anything beyond hit it/lower the car on it but I'm a bit unsure about greasing the hubs, I guess a lot of people do it but it's often said that what transmits the force (i.e. holds your car up) is as much) the friction between wheel and hub as sheer force through the bolts, which might seem far fetched, but the bolts put a lot of compression on that joint so contact force and hence friction are very high. If you're relying on sheer strength of the bolts alone, who knows, you might have a nasty surprise one day, but then I've not heard of it happening.. it's probably just one of those things people on the internet say. But then I've never greased hubs either and never had a problem
Probably best to just go buy a rubber mallet though, it might start as just for this one thing but they come in useful for all kinds of stuff, rubber mallets are great fun

Edited by scarble on Friday 5th December 15:08

[Sheepshanks]

scarble said:

I'm afraid I can't offer anything beyond hit it/lower the car on it but I'm a bit unsure about greasing the hubs, I guess a lot of people do it but it's often said that what transmits the force (i.e. holds your car up) is as much) the friction between wheel and hub

That's absolutely correct - all the nuts / bolts do is clamp the wheel to the hub.

[CraigyMc]

richarda0109 said:

Craig - is it off yet!

a bit of 4 x 2 and the rubber mallet or club / sledge hammer

Let us know when its off?

I needed to get back to work (Ionly have time at lunch to swap the wheels over).
I'll take another run at it with larger doc martens and/or judicious use of my trolleyjack and the cars own weight this evening, with the nuts loosened