Wheel off, caliper loosened, disc is now unattached?

[Old Merc]

RONV said:

n3il123 said:

What?!

Hi, you would not believe how many cars we have had to bring to the garage on the "spec" when so called DIY work has been carried out and wrecked the brakes, striped threads and rounded off nuts not having the correct tools it looks so easy in a workshop manual but if you work on a key board all day every thing looks easy.

Quite right RONV.
You also get car owners who come in asking for a quote to fit a "what ever". "By the way I have the new part in the boot all I want is a quote for labour".Nothing else said.
You then set about fitting HIS part only to discover broken or rounded bolts,seized studs etc.Someone has obviously had a go and given up.The job you have quoted for turns out to be a night mare and takes twice as long to complete.Of course being a professional you have to guarantee the finished job and if something goes wrong the "innocent customer" will accuse you of being a con man.

[Mr2Mike]

Old Merc said:

Quite right RONV.
You also get car owners who come in asking for a quote to fit a "what ever". "By the way I have the new part in the boot all I want is a quote for labour".Nothing else said.
You then set about fitting HIS part only to discover broken or rounded bolts,seized studs etc.Someone has obviously had a go and given up.The job you have quoted for turns out to be a night mare and takes twice as long to complete.Of course being a professional you have to guarantee the finished job and if something goes wrong the "innocent customer" will accuse you of being a con man.

OTOH you simply can't trust all "professionals" in garages to do a good job. I have seen first hand some of the practicesbodges routinely used to speed up jobs or cover up accidental damage, and is the primary reason I now do all my own work on my cars.

[PaulKemp]

I've just replaced springs, top mounts, various nuts and bolts and a handbrake cable on my Fiesta ST, the rear discs did not have a securing screw or anywhere to put one, also the holes for the studs to go through were larger than the studs.
Once all put back together there is no feeling of the discs moving under braking and I am a quite enthusiastic driver

[PositronicRay]

Old Merc said:

RONV said:

n3il123 said:

What?!

Hi, you would not believe how many cars we have had to bring to the garage on the "spec" when so called DIY work has been carried out and wrecked the brakes, striped threads and rounded off nuts not having the correct tools it looks so easy in a workshop manual but if you work on a key board all day every thing looks easy.

Quite right RONV.
You also get car owners who come in asking for a quote to fit a "what ever". "By the way I have the new part in the boot all I want is a quote for labour".Nothing else said.
You then set about fitting HIS part only to discover broken or rounded bolts,seized studs etc.Someone has obviously had a go and given up.The job you have quoted for turns out to be a night mare and takes twice as long to complete.Of course being a professional you have to guarantee the finished job and if something goes wrong the "innocent customer" will accuse you of being a con man.

I've looked @ a job, realised stuffs seized and it's beyond my skills/tools. So booked the car in, I've explained what's stopped me, the mechanic say's not to worry, he expects stuff to be seized anyway.

[Old Merc]

Mr2Mike said:

Old Merc said:

Quite right RONV.
You also get car owners who come in asking for a quote to fit a "what ever". "By the way I have the new part in the boot all I want is a quote for labour".Nothing else said.
You then set about fitting HIS part only to discover broken or rounded bolts,seized studs etc.Someone has obviously had a go and given up.The job you have quoted for turns out to be a night mare and takes twice as long to complete.Of course being a professional you have to guarantee the finished job and if something goes wrong the "innocent customer" will accuse you of being a con man.

OTOH you simply can't trust all "professionals" in garages to do a good job. I have seen first hand some of the practicesbodges routinely used to speed up jobs or cover up accidental damage, and is the primary reason I now do all my own work on my cars.

Good for you Mike,I hope you carry on doing a perfect job in your fully equipped workshop.
I know you always find tales of dodgy garages on forums.Mind you you very rarely see tales of tradesmen who regularly do a good job day after day,look after their customers,who then go back year after year. It would be pretty boring reading wouldn't it.

[Krikkit]

Old Merc said:

Good for you Mike,I hope you carry on doing a perfect job in your fully equipped workshop.
I know you always find tales of dodgy garages on forums.Mind you you very rarely see tales of tradesmen who regularly do a good job day after day,look after their customers,who then go back year after year. It would be pretty boring reading wouldn't it.

And likewise every enthusiast that does it properly doesn't always trumpet it on the net. There's bad apples on both sides which give each other a bad name!