New tyres fitted and steering wheel 5 degrees out

New tyres fitted and steering wheel 5 degrees out

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richvwr

Original Poster:

45 posts

101 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Just had new tyres fitted to my Elise 111R and now the steering wheel is sitting 5 degrees to the Right, Tracking just done, its had a full suspension refresh so no worn parts, Tyre pressures been checked and double checked, any one got a clue why ? Ill just point out the whee was perfect before the tyres were fitted,

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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I take it the tracking was done prior to the tyres being fitted ?

If so, I'd get it done again. Obviously the only thing that has changed is the tyres so there was probably some odd wear on them that isn't present on the new tyres and is causing the steering to sit out when going straight.

ETA when I say 'tracking' I mean someone who knows what they are doing using a Hunter or similar machine so that the front wheels are aligned with the backs and then the toe in/out is adjusted, I've seen far too many 'tracking' adjustments where no account is taken of the rear and front wheel relationships (or the steeriing wheel and front wheels in some cases!)

Edited by Jimmyarm on Thursday 21st April 09:10

richvwr

Original Poster:

45 posts

101 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Cheers will get it booked in for a full Geo

melhookv12

958 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Should always do tracking/suspension set up after tyres are replaced. Tyres wear funny and can cause different readings.


LarJammer

2,240 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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You could try just swapping them side to side, you may be surprised.

richvwr

Original Poster:

45 posts

101 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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I thought of swapping side to side but AD07,s are directional

Piersman2

6,599 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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richvwr said:
I thought of swapping side to side but AD07,s are directional
Swap, then see if the steering is straight whilst reversing. smile

Peanut Gallery

2,428 posts

111 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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On a flat road does the car pull to the side, trying to straighten the steering wheel up, ending up in you driving a long slow corner?

(I agree, swap the tyres, a couple of miles in "reverse" is not going to harm them.)

Fastpedeller

3,875 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Jimmyarm said:
I take it the tracking was done prior to the tyres being fitted ?

If so, I'd get it done again. Obviously the only thing that has changed is the tyres so there was probably some odd wear on them that isn't present on the new tyres and is causing the steering to sit out when going straight.

ETA when I say 'tracking' I mean someone who knows what they are doing using a Hunter or similar machine so that the front wheels are aligned with the backs and then the toe in/out is adjusted, I've seen far too many 'tracking' adjustments where no account is taken of the rear and front wheel relationships (or the steeriing wheel and front wheels in some cases!)

Edited by Jimmyarm on Thursday 21st April 09:10
Certainly it needs someone who knows what they are doing. If they don't, then they can check it to find all the alignment, toe in ok in the straight ahead position (ie wheels straight ahead), if the steering RACK isn't in it's central position the steering wheel won't be central. ie where the track rod ends are, one side has more thread showing than the other!

PositronicRay

27,048 posts

184 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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5 degrees is only a gnats cock. With cambers on road surfaces and things I'm surprised you notice.

Edited by PositronicRay on Thursday 21st April 16:42

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Saturday 23rd April 2016
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Fastpedeller said:
Certainly it needs someone who knows what they are doing. If they don't, then they can check it to find all the alignment, toe in ok in the straight ahead position (ie wheels straight ahead), if the steering RACK isn't in it's central position the steering wheel won't be central. ie where the track rod ends are, one side has more thread showing than the other!
I probably shouldn't admit this publicly but my 'boss' doesn't realise that some racks need to be centralised before they are fitted, combine this with columns that don't have a locating spline and it provides some hilarious tracking adjustments (we don't do them).

Fortunately we QA each others stuff, I've had one rack end wound all the way on and one barely on two threads before !

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Monday 25th April 2016
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Did you get the rears aligned? On my VX220 when the rear toe was out, it made the steering not point straight.