locking wheel nut snapped, half now left on stud!!

locking wheel nut snapped, half now left on stud!!

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Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

165 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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So can't even knock a socket on it now, any ideas.I'm thinking maybe lots of drilling and a chisle.

richs2891

897 posts

254 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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Large pliers ?

Or if space in the bits that peaks up cut a slot into whats left insert a flat blade screwdriver and unwind ?

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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If that's the lock in your hand then a few taps with a chisel may remove the nut. I'll wish you luck but it's what I'd do, initially. Otherwise it's a grinding job with an air tool.

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

165 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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it was really tight, had an 18" long wrench on the lock key and was giving it some serious leverage before it snapped. Doubt pliers would shift it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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I used an impact gun and nut removed, it took me about 40 minutes so a lot of perseverance

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

110 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^^^^^^^ This is looking like the best way, I doubt whats left of that nut will be strong enough to chisel and turn

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.

Old Merc

3,494 posts

168 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Why not employ these guys, http://www.threaddoctorservicesltd.co.uk/ they have got me out of the S*** a number of times.It wont cost you a fortune,it will save you lots of time and will save your wheels (and fingers)from damage.
While you're at it remove the other three locking nuts and bin them.Standard nuts/bolts lightly greased and properly torqued up.
Locking wheel nuts cause more grief and time wasting than all the other car problems put together.People don't bother jacking up cars and stealing wheels these days.You are more likely to be mugged and have the whole car stolen.

Edited by Old Merc on Sunday 28th August 11:04

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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AW111 said:
CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.
Ooooh I like that, much safer for the wheel. Getting hubs off can be a bit of a mission but it'll definately be easier to get the stud out that way.

Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

165 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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fixed today for a tenner. a back street tyre bay hammered on a socket on the remaining bit of bolt. a 2 foot breaker bar eased it off.
Thanks for the replies. Result!!

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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.......and breathe...

Bet that made your day didnt it ?

BTW, a pic of the car in question is required as that looks like classic Mustang to me ?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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AW111 said:
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.
Unlikely to be possible on anything remotely modern since the disc will be trapped by the caliper and carrier. Even if you jacked the car up, removing the caliper from the rear with the wheel still in place is likely impossible unless you have something with tiny discs and huge wheels.

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
Unlikely to be possible on anything remotely modern since the disc will be trapped by the caliper and carrier. Even if you jacked the car up, removing the caliper from the rear with the wheel still in place is likely impossible unless you have something with tiny discs and huge wheels.
Very much depends on the car and wheel design. I can see the caliper mount bolts on mine between the spokes (although I've never had to try and remove wheel and calioer together).

buzzer

3,543 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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That really is bad luck..

If it were mine, I would centre punch the stud and drill it out with progressively bigger drills. then change the stud for a new one.


Ah, just noticed you fixed it, great news



helix402

7,875 posts

183 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Don't grease wheel bolts.

Auntieroll

543 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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helix402 said:
Don't grease wheel bolts.
Why not?

finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Auntieroll said:
Why not?
So you don't over torque them, but when did you last torque your wheel nuts/bolts.

helix402

7,875 posts

183 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Grease on threads affects the tightening torque. Difficult to remove wheel nuts/bolts are not due to corrosion, they are due to over tightening.