Air bag exhaust jacks

Air bag exhaust jacks

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HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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Just chuck the jack under the rear end and crank it up. Car sat like this for about 20 minutes whilst new tyres were fitted.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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NDNDNDND said:
As in two jacks at the front sill corners until high enough for axle stands, and the jacking the rear sill corners until high enough for axles stands? I might try that at the weekend, it's the only scheme I've really got at the moment!
Yes, exactly this. It's a little bit of a faff going up an inch or two each side at a time but doesn't take long and the car remains nice and stable. The biggest PITA on some cars is finding suitable places for both the jack and the axle stand.

On my wife's Smart Roadster I made a pair of "jacking adapters" out of angle iron that clamp onto the sill weld seam at each side at the rear. They spread the load out and stop the seam getting bent, and I made them long enough to accommodate a jack and a axle stand at the same time.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Wednesday 1st February 16:26

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2,024 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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HappyMidget said:
Just chuck the jack under the rear end and crank it up. Car sat like this for about 20 minutes whilst new tyres were fitted.

I'm planning on removing the gearbox...

NDNDNDND

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2,024 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
On my wife's Smart Roadster I made a pair of "jacking adapters" out of angle iron that clamp onto the sill weld seam at each side at the rear. They spread the load out and stop the seam getting bent, and I made them long enough to accommodate a jack and a axle stand at the same time.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Wednesday 1st February 16:26
They sound pretty neat - got any pictures?

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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NDNDNDND said:
I'm planning on removing the gearbox...
It is jacked high enough to get axle stands under though.

brrapp

3,701 posts

163 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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The other cars are ok but my MX5 is a bit low for my big trolley jack so I just run it up a set of ramps first then use the jack from there.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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NDNDNDND said:
They sound pretty neat - got any pictures?
Yes I do, somewhere! I'll try to dig them out.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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brrapp said:
The other cars are ok but my MX5 is a bit low for my big trolley jack so I just run it up a set of ramps first then use the jack from there.
My Civic is too low (on standard suspension) to get my trolley jack onto the front subframe so I use a scissors jack to lift it up a couple of inches first. Very handy things are scissors jacks, and cheap as chips.

S0 What

3,358 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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NDNDNDND said:
S0 What said:
I've had one, i sold it and bought a small trolly jack, dont't get me wrong it worked and didn't damage any of the vehicals i used it on but the only real improvement over a small trolly jack was in deep mud, great for recovery work but not worth the effort for day to day running IMHO.
Having said that i had a large one ment for offroad recovery so it slighly maybe a wee bit more of a PITA to use ??
Did you ever use the air jack to transfer onto axle stands? My main concern is being able to deflate it controllably enough to settle the car onto two axle stands at a time.
No, i would normaly only do that in my workshop and i have a jack(s) there, the thing with a bag is it gets in the way, it's large and not precise like a jack head, you really cant beat a trolly jack in any curcumstance appart from mud, even then i prefer a trolly jack and some thick ply, the bag ni on allways gets in the way of stands/access and it's only really good for side lifts IE on a flat floorpan and i never put a car on stands one side at a time, that's asking for trouble, it's when the stands normaly get leverd over, i jack fornt or rear first as there is ni on allways something thin and strong or round and strong to pivot in the stand cups, chassis rails tend to be square and lever the stand cups as they rotate when jacking the 2nd side usually tilting the stands.

Edited by S0 What on Thursday 2nd February 14:05

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2,024 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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S0 What said:
No, i would normaly only do that in my workshop and i have a jack(s) there, the thing with a bag is it gets in the way, it's large and not precise like a jack head, you really cant beat a trolly jack in any curcumstance appart from mud, even then i prefer a trolly jack and some thick ply, the bag ni on allways gets in the way of stands/access and it's only really good for side lifts IE on a flat floorpan and i never put a car on stands one side at a time, that's asking for trouble, it's when the stands normaly get leverd over, i jack fornt or rear first as there is ni on allways something thin and strong or round and strong to pivot in the stand cups, chassis rails tend to be square and lever the stand cups as they rotate when jacking the 2nd side usually tilting the stands.

Edited by S0 What on Thursday 2nd February 14:05
That's good advice, thanks. I had suspected jacking the car from side to side might push the stands over. I won't risk trying that now. I get the point about the exhaust bags being too cumbersome, and if going from side to side is that unstable, then there's little benefit to using it. Back to the trolley jacks, the blocks of wood and patience...