Air bag removal?

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tight fart

Original Poster:

2,923 posts

274 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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I want to remote steering wheel on my camper (Fiat Ducato 2010)
Is this relatively safe to do?
I'll disconnect both batteries first.
I did call a local mobile mechanic who told me it has to be done in a garage where the airbag can be placed in a cage due to health & safety!

(I'm changing the cruise control stalk)

Edited by tight fart on Saturday 29th April 08:17

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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It'll be fine. I always disconnect them with my face to one side rather than having the airbag in front me. Just paranoia though really. Never had any issues at all.

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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As you have said the vehicle battery ABSOLUTELY MUST be disconnected, it is then completely safe to disconnect.

They are not wrong in that when removed a main garage will put it in a safety cage type thing in case they are accidentally set off, just put it somewhere safe away from any prying hands and stray magnetic/electrical fields.

Aggymon

1,962 posts

179 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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It will be fine.

Just remember to put the explody side pointing upwards, they go rather a long way if they go off facing down wink

tight fart

Original Poster:

2,923 posts

274 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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I think I'll put my crash helmet on just to be sure then idea

foggy

1,162 posts

283 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Disconnect battery, leave 10 mins for any circuitry to discharge then get busy removing the bag. Have done tens if not hundreds of them and never had a problem. Always place out of the way somewhere with the bag facing upwards into open space if you haven't got a cage to put it in.

Emanresu

311 posts

90 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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foggy said:
Disconnect battery, leave 10 mins for any circuitry to discharge then get busy removing the bag. Have done tens if not hundreds of them and never had a problem. Always place out of the way somewhere with the bag facing upwards into open space if you haven't got a cage to put it in.
No need to wait 10 minutes. Remove the positive battery lead and touch it to the negative terminal on the battery and it will discharge everything immediately.

chryslerben

1,175 posts

160 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
No need to wait 10 minutes. Remove the positive battery lead and touch it to the negative terminal on the battery and it will discharge everything immediately.
It's probably better if you don't and just leave it 10 minutes.

tight fart

Original Poster:

2,923 posts

274 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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All done thanks (cruise still not working)

Emanresu

311 posts

90 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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chryslerben said:
Emanresu said:
No need to wait 10 minutes. Remove the positive battery lead and touch it to the negative terminal on the battery and it will discharge everything immediately.
It's probably better if you don't and just leave it 10 minutes.
Why? What's your reasoning? Because this method is proven to discharge all electrical systems.

Professional automotive technician with 20 years experience btw. 4 in Citroen main dealer, 4 in Mercedes and 12 running my own shop.

chryslerben

1,175 posts

160 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Emanresu said:
chryslerben said:
Emanresu said:
No need to wait 10 minutes. Remove the positive battery lead and touch it to the negative terminal on the battery and it will discharge everything immediately.
It's probably better if you don't and just leave it 10 minutes.
Why? What's your reasoning? Because this method is proven to discharge all electrical systems.

Professional automotive technician with 20 years experience btw. 4 in Citroen main dealer, 4 in Mercedes and 12 running my own shop.
And I work for a German Automotive in Electrical R&D, no where in any of the companies I've worked for has it ever been agreed or stated that's a safe method of discharge. It's even written in the Technical doc's supplied by the ECU manufacturer that leave it to self discharge it's what the ecu is designed to do.

As a question, where has it been proven as a safe method of discharging ECU's?

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

193 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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disconnect battery AND REMOVE TO PREVENT ACCIDENTAL RE-CONNECTION at least an hour before hand, don't wear a polyester tracksuit (static & all that), keep away from the blowy up bit & store away from people/animals & you'll be fine, they SHOULD only go off if they recieve an electrical current, but static is the most obvious cause of one going off.

Generally they are pretty safe though.

S0 What

3,358 posts

173 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
disconnect battery AND REMOVE TO PREVENT ACCIDENTAL RE-CONNECTION at least an hour before hand, don't wear a polyester tracksuit (static & all that), keep away from the blowy up bit & store away from people/animals & you'll be fine, they SHOULD only go off if they recieve an electrical current, but static is the most obvious cause of one going off.

Generally they are pretty safe though.
If you wear a shell suit you desrve to be blown up laugh

I've removed hundreds and replaced probably half that amount (used to run a breakers), battery off, have a cup of tea and then get back to it, never had one go off, got maybe 20 in storage at the mo in a normal cupboard, only airbags i've ever had go off were on purpose, great fun for blowing things around the yard (mainly road cones and shell suit wearing customers) biggrin