Ford Focus 2013 diesel purchase was a mistake

[micky1786]

Mikey G said:

micky1786 said:

Can’t find a 1.6 tdci with wet belt but plenty of 1.8 ?

Sounds like its the Peugeot engine.

Yes Peugeot stamped

[micky1786]

Mignon said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Poster Mignon is the man for this and he may be along soon or you could open another topic asking for him

Poster Mignon has no idea how much torque that diesel engine would take to turn by hand with the injectors in and the engine working against compression. A fooking lot I would imagine. With twice the CR of a petrol engine I'd not be surprised at 70 or 80 ft lbs. However there are clearly two different problems. The engine won't start even when the car is towed and it also turns slowly on the starter motor.

It would seem sensible to check the voltage the starter motor is getting and how it drops when cranking. But if the engine won't start anyway then that's separate. A fair guess would be that the cam timing got messed up but it could be fuel too of course. Might just need the system bleeding after the rebuild.

Theres no way of bleeding the fuel system without cranking the engine over is there?. Again even with a tow don’t you thing it should have started?. Something does seem like it’s tight but what could it be.

[Little Pete]

A couple of things I've come across on these engines. The chain between the two cams wears- to the point of wearing a groove in the cam cover- and the cam timing goes out by a couple of teeth.
The crank position sensor gets a trigger from a ring on the back of the crank pulley. It is quite easy to damage the ring when taking the pulley off and loose the CPS signal.
You are going to need a decent scan tool to check some live data before you go any further.

[StevenB]

presuming the valve timing is correct, have you done a compression test ?

Do you get any smoke from the exhaust when trying to start it ?

[micky1786]

Little Pete said:

A couple of things I've come across on these engines. The chain between the two cams wears- to the point of wearing a groove in the cam cover- and the cam timing goes out by a couple of teeth.
The crank position sensor gets a trigger from a ring on the back of the crank pulley. It is quite easy to damage the ring when taking the pulley off and loose the CPS signal.
You are going to need a decent scan tool to check some live data before you go any further.

Hi, This has a single cam shaft. Hmm cps never thought of that one. I’ve had someone over but they didn’t put the scanner on it for some reason as he kept saying timings out!!! Had someone else out today and he did the old school timing no1 and no4 valves open and it’s popped and but then did exactly the same this slowed down cranking!.

[micky1786]

StevenB said:

presuming the valve timing is correct, have you done a compression test ?

Do you get any smoke from the exhaust when trying to start it ?

Hi, the two guys who came out both say compression is good although I think I’d better take my compression tester down and gown that a go with injectors out but again car isn’t even cranking over properly. Slow crank and then dies out. Actually don’t have a diesel compression tester as my ones a sealey petrol engine tester

Edited by micky1786 on Friday 11th January 22:25

Edited by micky1786 on Saturday 12th January 00:08

[micky1786]

Still no luck with this one

[micky1786]

All done thanks everyone who replied

[StevenB]

so what was it .......... :-)

[Mr Whippy]

Great topic up until the climax.

Is there to be a sequel explaining everything?


My guess for the sequel. An oily rag stuck in one of the cylinders