Insignia engine seized

Insignia engine seized

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Shamek

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1 posts

63 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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Hi to all
Please let me share with you my experience with insignia which started of with seized engine and some more problems after all.
Hope there will be someone who went through the similar situation and would be able to advise the next steps I should take.
This is a standard 2.0 cdti SRI model with 99k on clock.
Not long ago a low oil icon come up on the dashboard and couple minutes later the engine stopped running, as I was on motorway I couldn't stop immediately but I've managed to get to nearest lay bay.
AA diagnosed seized engine, towed me home and suggested to scrap the car. I read all about problems with oil seal in sump and I've replaced it.
To check if the engine is damaged I took all apart, but couldn't find any damage or excessive wear on cylinders.
Once all build up back to it's original state the engine was turning absolutely fine by hand, but after couple turns by starter its stops and it will not turn at all, even by hand.
Not sure what may caused this problem as all parts have been put back as per manuals.

Please share your comments and suggestions.
Thanks in advance



GreenV8S

30,198 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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Shamek said:
Not sure what may caused this problem as all parts have been put back as per manuals.
Take it apart and find out. Or pay somebody else to do it. Or scrap the engine.

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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That 20DTH has a terrible reputation, a mate bought one for his Mrs. Another mechanic mate put a set of bottom end bearings into it before he gave it to her. They seem to eat them for fun

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

196 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Shamek said:
To check if the engine is damaged I took all apart, but couldn't find any damage or excessive wear on cylinders.
So, that's head off, crank out, crank journals and big-end eyes measured, pistons out and rings checked, bores measured, then reassembled with new bolts and gaskets?

...or something less than that...?

jas xjr

11,309 posts

239 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Get a second opinion when dealing with the recovery guys.they vary wildly in their experience and knowledge.
I was once told that my engine needed replacing after it cut out on the motorway. It was the coil.
My supercharger was broken apparently ,stopping the car from starting, it was a fuel filter issue.
I have also had fantastic service, a patrolman making up a clutch cable for me,when he could just have arranged a recovery for me,200 miles.
You do sound as if you are more knowledgeable than most but do not take what they say as gospel in all circumstances.

Locknut

653 posts

137 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Car Mechanics magazine has just done a project on one of these. Things just went from bad to worse as they went on, including the engine locking up after a re-build. That turned out to be a thrust bearing inserted the wrong way around.

Look it up, I think they sell back issues and there are about nine or ten that carry articles about the Insignia engine.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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littleredrooster said:
Shamek said:
To check if the engine is damaged I took all apart, but couldn't find any damage or excessive wear on cylinders.
So, that's head off, crank out, crank journals and big-end eyes measured, pistons out and rings checked, bores measured, then reassembled with new bolts and gaskets?

...or something less than that...?
Exactly this OP....

Have you had the crank out or not?

danster72

51 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Locknut said:
Car Mechanics magazine has just done a project on one of these. Things just went from bad to worse as they went on, including the engine locking up after a re-build. That turned out to be a thrust bearing inserted the wrong way around.

Look it up, I think they sell back issues and there are about nine or ten that carry articles about the Insignia engine.
They spent £5k trying to fix a no-history £2k auction buy. It started with low oil pressure.

IIRC the company they used for a rebuild does several Insignia diesels a week.

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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OP has done a runner once again.

1 post, technical questions, can't be arsed to answer the thread, goodnight Vienna. How many posters have done this recently?

FFS - conclude the thread or ps off and post on Mumsnet or somewhere.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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littleredrooster said:
OP has done a runner once again.

1 post, technical questions, can't be arsed to answer the thread, goodnight Vienna. How many posters have done this recently?

FFS - conclude the thread or ps off and post on Mumsnet or somewhere.
Does my head in. I'm minded to check if an OP is from a one post wonder in future and shorten any reply as it'll probably be a waste of effort.

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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danster72 said:
They spent £5k trying to fix a no-history £2k auction buy. It started with low oil pressure.

IIRC the company they used for a rebuild does several Insignia diesels a week.
Cheap ones here are sub €2k for a 2009 one, and €1500 without a test on. Even a 2012 one is around the €3500 mark. A 2012 Passat 2.0 is still about €7.5k...

gordmac

83 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Does the 2.0l VW engine not have reliability issues too?

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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gordmac said:
Does the 2.0l VW engine not have reliability issues too?
The CR are fairly bombproof. The PD units pre-2008 had bad oil pumps, but easily rectified