Spark Plug Gaps

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jcmcd98

Original Poster:

2 posts

62 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Right, So recently I've been getting more and more into properly maintaining my own car. In the past I haven't bothered and Its lead to some very expensive MOT invoices for repairs I could have prevented for much much cheaper.

My next venture is to change my spark plugs. I'm more than capable of doing so myself, and being an engineer I have all the necessary tools. The only thing I'm struggling with is knowing the correct gap for my spark plugs. Do they come pre-gapped? is that the right gap?

I know it all sound stupid but its the first time ive done this.

I drive a Mazda 2 Colour edition 2014

Where would I find the info I need?

Thanks in advance

Mignon

1,018 posts

90 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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jcmcd98 said:
Where would I find the info I need?
Probably by being even mildly proactive on Google.

https://www.go-parts.com/ps/products/Mazda-2-Spark...

Faust66

2,037 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Further to the above ^^


Buy a set of feeler gauges (although as as Engineer I'd imagine you have a set?).

Buy a set of plugs.

Use feeler gauges to measure the gap. Gently tap the electrode of the plug to narrow the gap, prise it up (gently) with a suitable tool to increase the gap.

You’ll find that most plugs come pre-set (‘pre-gapped’ if you will) these days, so you probably don't need to bother with setting the gap. And do not try setting the gap on multi electrode plugs.



Fun fact: the cardboard from a pack of fags is aprox the right gap for older engines. Also works for setting the points gap on an older car.

jcmcd98

Original Poster:

2 posts

62 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Yeah i have a set of feelers. I also have a coin-style spark plug tool. Not sure which one is more recommended

Faust66

2,037 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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jcmcd98 said:
Yeah i have a set of feelers. I also have a coin-style spark plug tool. Not sure which one is more recommended
Feeler gauge every time IME.

Coilspring

577 posts

64 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Can't remember the last time I got feeler gauges out, let alone gapped a spark plug.

Plugs are now so vehicle/engine specific they are nearly always pre gapped.

Talk to a decent motor factor and they will tell you what gap is needed and what the plug is set at.

Chris32345

2,086 posts

63 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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Most modern plug's reccomnded you DON'T mess with the gap especially platinum and iridium ones as you can damage the fragile tips

SAS Tom

3,407 posts

175 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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I’ve never gapped a spark plug in my life, they come at the correct gap.

phumy

5,674 posts

238 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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You cant beat a bit of old plug maintenance, get yourself a plug electrode file to file the electode so it has a nice flat surface and sharp edges for the now nice big fat spark to jump, small wire brush to clean all the crap and carbon off , nice clean lint free rag to clean everything off and a set of feelers to re-set the gap, clean the porcelain then ensure the connector on the top threads (if fitted) is nice and tight and replace the plug into the head, onto the next one.

Save yourself some beer tickets.

Coilspring

577 posts

64 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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phumy said:
You cant beat a bit of old plug maintenance, get yourself a plug electrode file to file the electode so it has a nice flat surface and sharp edges for the now nice big fat spark to jump, small wire brush to clean all the crap and carbon off , nice clean lint free rag to clean everything off and a set of feelers to re-set the gap, clean the porcelain then ensure the connector on the top threads (if fitted) is nice and tight and replace the plug into the head, onto the next one.

Save yourself some beer tickets.
When was the last time you had an ignition fault or issue that was solved by cleaning the plugs? When was the last time you had a spark plug that was the fault? How much is a set of plugs, versus your time , if you suspect such issues?

And if you must brush them clean, use a brass brush, not a wire brush.


paintman

7,691 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Always check the gap. Eliminates any chance that the plug has been dropped & closed the gap.
There was a programme some years ago - a competition for young mechanics.
Fitting new spark plugs was part of the exercise & the examiners had closed the gap on one of them for each candidate.
IIRC at least two didn't bother checking & consequently spent considerable time trying to find the misfire.

phumy

5,674 posts

238 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Coilspring said:
phumy said:
You cant beat a bit of old plug maintenance, get yourself a plug electrode file to file the electode so it has a nice flat surface and sharp edges for the now nice big fat spark to jump, small wire brush to clean all the crap and carbon off , nice clean lint free rag to clean everything off and a set of feelers to re-set the gap, clean the porcelain then ensure the connector on the top threads (if fitted) is nice and tight and replace the plug into the head, onto the next one.

Save yourself some beer tickets.
When was the last time you had an ignition fault or issue that was solved by cleaning the plugs? When was the last time you had a spark plug that was the fault? How much is a set of plugs, versus your time , if you suspect such issues?

And if you must brush them clean, use a brass brush, not a wire brush.
I never mentioned anything about ignition issues, i just mentioned that it was good to do some plug maintenance. I only maintain my cars when i am on leave or at weekends so it costs me no time at all and i love doing it so theres the trade off. I have never had an issue with plugs for about 40 years so im probably doing something right... wink

Tony1963

4,786 posts

163 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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That’s like saying my house has never been attacked by a pterodactyl because I light incense sticks every night wink

Coilspring

577 posts

64 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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phumy said:
I never mentioned anything about ignition issues, i just mentioned that it was good to do some plug maintenance. I only maintain my cars when i am on leave or at weekends so it costs me no time at all and i love doing it so theres the trade off. I have never had an issue with plugs for about 40 years so im probably doing something right... wink
Fair comment.

I have never done any such "maintenance", but service vehicles daily. Always change plugs at the recommended intervals, and never had any plug related issues either. So I am probably doing something right too.

I doubt you are achieving anything, and more likely to cause issues than cure anything (if there is no issue it is like trying to fix something that isn't broken). But if you have the time, and it suits you, then go for it. No vehicle manufacturer that I am aware of suggests such action is necessary or part of any service schedule, even with long life plugs.

PositronicRay

27,043 posts

184 months

Wednesday 27th March 2019
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Tony1963 said:
That’s like saying my house has never been attacked by a pterodactyl because I light incense sticks every night wink
biggrin

DJP

1,198 posts

180 months

Sunday 31st March 2019
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Spark plugs come pre-gapped these days. I generally give them a quick eyeball to check nothing is obviously bent and then fit them as is.