New rotors wobble inside pad bracket

New rotors wobble inside pad bracket

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Paul_M3

2,371 posts

186 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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finlo said:
Loving the single piston 'AMG' calipers!
Even the BMW M3 CSL only had a single piston calliper.

GreenV8S

30,214 posts

285 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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Sh1n0b1 said:
grinded down, sanded, wet and dry, coated etc
No paint!

The wheel is an exact toleranced fit on the center bore and there is no allowance for paint.

Paint between the wheel and hub flange is also a bad idea since the paint will relax over time, allowing the wheel to start fretting against the hub. It's unpainted for a reason.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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He'll be dead the moment he takes a drive out.

RobXjcoupe

3,180 posts

92 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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GreenV8S said:
Sh1n0b1 said:
grinded down, sanded, wet and dry, coated etc
No paint!

The wheel is an exact toleranced fit on the center bore and there is no allowance for paint.

Paint between the wheel and hub flange is also a bad idea since the paint will relax over time, allowing the wheel to start fretting against the hub. It's unpainted for a reason.
I’m smiling thinking what relaxed paint looks like smile
The fellas wheel will push over that hub without an issue even with a bit of paint. Let’s be honest here, the fella has been told make sure the hub is spotless of corrosion and that’s exactly what he has done. No one said don’t paint the hub, and thickness of paint roughly 10 microns. Won’t really make any difference.

thebraketester

14,254 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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You don’t want paint on any mating surfaces.

I have never known such a drama changing brakes. laugh at least you’ve got lots of time to sort it out.

Tony1963

4,789 posts

163 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
No one said don’t paint the hub, and thickness of paint roughly 10 microns. Won’t really make any difference.
Nobody said don’t wrap the hub in rabbit fur either. And strangely enough...

RobXjcoupe

3,180 posts

92 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Tony1963 said:
RobXjcoupe said:
No one said don’t paint the hub, and thickness of paint roughly 10 microns. Won’t really make any difference.
Nobody said don’t wrap the hub in rabbit fur either. And strangely enough...
That’s just being stupid and petty. Let’s just hope you are perfect and never need help in any way

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
GreenV8S said:
Sh1n0b1 said:
grinded down, sanded, wet and dry, coated etc
No paint!

The wheel is an exact toleranced fit on the center bore and there is no allowance for paint.

Paint between the wheel and hub flange is also a bad idea since the paint will relax over time, allowing the wheel to start fretting against the hub. It's unpainted for a reason.
I’m smiling thinking what relaxed paint looks like smile
The fellas wheel will push over that hub without an issue even with a bit of paint. Let’s be honest here, the fella has been told make sure the hub is spotless of corrosion and that’s exactly what he has done. No one said don’t paint the hub, and thickness of paint roughly 10 microns. Won’t really make any difference.
Haha yeh ok I get it, It is my first time doing anything like this and Iv taken my time to make sure I get it right and ask where I'm not sure.

Once I sanded down the hub faces I thought paint would help protect them from rusting over again and provide a smoother surface which everyone had advised me was essential.

I used one light coat of this paint...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Z43KDLG/ref...

Says 650c? Meant for engine blocks. Surely a very light dusting of this paint is better than a build up of rust? Do the hubs get hotter than this? I can understand checking the torque on the bolts again after a few drives.

On the caliper brackets I also only did one light coat over where the metal meets the screw holes to prevent rust and then masked over those areas to prevent further paint build up as I did more coats.

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Paul_M3 said:
finlo said:
Loving the single piston 'AMG' calipers!
Even the BMW M3 CSL only had a single piston calliper.
biggrin

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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danster72 said:
OP - have you got a torque wrench? Can I kindly suggest that you follow the forum guidance to get this driveable, and then get it into a local garage asap and ask them to them to check your work?

It's great that you want to tackle jobs like this, most of us learnt doing exactly this with a dad or an older mate who knew what the various posters are advising you. It's just impossible to check everything is 'right' via a forum and brakes are crucial.

Dont be disheartened, it's a straightforward and satisfying job when you've got the hang of it... smile
Yeh, I have a torque wrench and the torque specs for all the bolts. Thanks I appreciate your comment and understand what your saying. At first I only intended to change pads myself but as I took them off realised how bad the rotors were, then I decided to remove everything and restore it. Basically using my free time atm to learn what I can. But yeh definitely a good idea to get someone to check over what iv done. I'm more worried about ruining my new rotors or pads.

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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OK New question. If i dremel and grind off all the paint and get the hubs nice and smooth again. Should I coat them with anything else to prevent rust?

Iv heard people using hammerite or anti seize etc?

When I washed my brackets before painting they anodised so quickly and showed signs of rust straight away, this is what prompted me to paint the hub face for protection.

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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This guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGZEoU9vHD8


He painted his hub faces. He posted videos after that one so I assume hes still alive? biggrin

thebraketester

14,254 posts

139 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Sh1n0b1 said:
OK New question. If i dremel and grind off all the paint and get the hubs nice and smooth again. Should I coat them with anything else to prevent rust?

Iv heard people using hammerite or anti seize etc?

When I washed my brackets before painting they anodised so quickly and showed signs of rust straight away, this is what prompted me to paint the hub face for protection.
I use aluminium anti seize on hubs before I put on the disc... and then put a bit on the disc ‘hub’ too before I put on the wheels. Just a very very thin amount.

E-bmw

9,240 posts

153 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Sh1n0b1 said:
I used one light coat of this paint...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Z43KDLG/ref...

Says 650c? Meant for engine blocks. Surely a very light dusting of this paint is better than a build up of rust? Do the hubs get hotter than this? I can understand checking the torque on the bolts again after a few drives.
100% No, No, No, No, No!

If you must use anything on the faces a light smear of grease is OK.

Pando99

109 posts

60 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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As a mechanic I would just use a light smear of grease.
I would run a straight edge ( metal rule) across the hub to check for any high spots.
Brakes aren't that complicated and you are being methodical so I sure you will manage to get it sorted

Chris32345

2,086 posts

63 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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E-bmw said:
100% No, No, No, No, No!

If you must use anything on the faces a light smear of grease is OK.
The thickness of spray paint will make no difference to how secure the wheels is
Unless you empty the whole can in 1 spot

GreenV8S

30,214 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Chris32345 said:
The thickness of spray paint will make no difference to how secure the wheels is
Unless you empty the whole can in 1 spot
You have no idea how the paint has been applied. Remember this was done by somebody who thought that a 1mm high lump didn't matter, even when they were specifically chasing a run-out problem.

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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It's still irrelevant. If there were to be an issue he'd feel his wheel wobble and stop unless he's an utter tool. I once had wheel bolts coming loose and stopped. There was obviously something seriously wrong. A micron of paint's a none issue unless his bolts come loose, which they won't.

Sh1n0b1

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19 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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Just to be on the safe safe...

Hub all grinded down. Baby smooth. No paint...



What grease would be best? I have brembo b quiet left over from my pad contacts

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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It doesn't matter, you'll be dead. Just bolt it back together and go for a drive. If you make it to the end of the street let us know.