Another special tool required

Another special tool required

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Yogioes

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234 posts

97 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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So, lockdown boredom.
There is a little black screw holding on a black plastic cover on the top of my Discovery. I assume this is the aerial.
One of the screws is rusty (as you would expect on a 4 year old car!!!).
It's hard to see but irritating nonetheless and a lot easier to meddle with than all the corrosion underneath.
Or so I thought.
I decided to remove it and see if I had a suitable replacement.
At a quick glance I could see that it was a star with a pin up the middle.
No problem as I had previously bought a security bit set.




I tried several which looked like the correct size but none dropped into the hole.
Hmmm?

Is the hole in the tool too wee for the pin in the screw?
I don't fancy my chances of drilling it bigger as these tools should be quite hard.

After a closer look without my glasses and applying of my O Level arithmetic I realised that my tools are all six pointed and the screw on the car is five pointed.

DOH! - Another special tool required.




Plan B
I think I'll attempt to treat the rust in situ and dab some black paint on it.

tight fart

2,929 posts

274 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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5 sided torx with pin, vw use them quite a bit.

tight fart

2,929 posts

274 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Chris32345

2,086 posts

63 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Small flatebalde screwdriver in the middle and gives twist will often snap the middle pin so you can use a normal torx

normalbloke

7,463 posts

220 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Chris32345 said:
Small flatebalde screwdriver in the middle and gives twist will often snap the middle pin so you can use a normal torx
But it’s not a normal torx ,even with the pin removed...

Baldchap

7,687 posts

93 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Yogioes

Original Poster:

234 posts

97 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Thank you, that looks perfect for the job.
Not sure I can justify any more tools. I already have lots of tools bought for single jobs ...... but as we all know, you can't have too many!

Turn7

23,634 posts

222 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Torx anti tamper screw - its the Manufacturers way of saying "dont fk with this..."

paintman

7,693 posts

191 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Discovery 4?

LRcat gives part number XYP500240.
http://new.lrcat.com/#!/12728/53806/54449/4305/544...

Brit-cars website (might be slow to load) says M5x14mm.
https://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.php/170362/5497..._discovery_3_4_

Replace with something stainless steel?

Yogioes

Original Poster:

234 posts

97 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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paintman - thank you for that info. Very informative.
It is a Disco 4 with part no 18A984A

I was thinking that I would replace the screws with one from my assorted stainless steel collection.

But, while I originally dismissed Turn7's comment, on looking at the diagram it's not clear what it screws into.
The other option appears to be fitted with a nut from underneath while mine appears to have a mounting bracket with captive threads.

I will need to have a better look to ensure that I can get to that without stripping off the interior trim or worse, have it rattling around the roof somewhere.

It seemed like a good idea.......

tapkaJohnD

1,945 posts

205 months

thebraketester

14,254 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Use a centre punch and a hammer to spin the screw out...

Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

52 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Use an angle grinder and remove the car from the screw. Got to think clever in these circumstances.

Yogioes

Original Poster:

234 posts

97 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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So, to bring this to it's conclusion.
I bought the 5 pointed torx bits and had a go at removing the offending rusty screw.
However, it appeared to be lifting the top plastic cover with it and the thread that I could see exposed below looked bigger than it should have been. I suspect it was the part that the screw was screwed into.

At this point I chickened out and tightened it back in.

Sanded it as best I could with limited access, treated it to some Hydrate 80 and painted it with some matt black enamel.

It'll have to do.

Thanks for the hints and tips

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Drive it fix it repeat said:
Use an angle grinder and remove the car from the screw. Got to think clever in these circumstances.
Part 2.. Weld a new car back in after removing it's torx :-)